<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Not sure the community will be assured by the comments from the CCWG on accountability in regards to dependencies. Perhaps i’m wrong. Let’s see what feedback we get in Singapore and proceed accordingly.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Robert</div><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 3, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Greg Shatan &lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Chuck, I share your concern, though it is abating somewhat. I think we should continue to discuss and clarify what we need the CCWG to do, and also its effect on our timeline.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Gomes, Chuck <span dir="ltr" class="">&lt;<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank" class="">cgomes@verisign.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class="">Thanks Jonathan.&nbsp; I confess to not being completely assured by the correspondence that the CCWG will do what we need but I guess we will just have to monitor
 their working on a continuing basis.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u>&nbsp;<u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class="">Chuck<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u>&nbsp;<u class=""></u></span></p>
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<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 11:41 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank" class="">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] FW: CWG-Stewardship accountability dependencies<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><div class=""><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u>&nbsp;<u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class="">All,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u>&nbsp;<u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class="">Apologies for the delay in sharing this correspondence.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u>&nbsp;<u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class="">Jonathan<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u>&nbsp;<u class=""></u></span></p>
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<b class="">Sent:</b> 30 January 2015 20:03<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Lise Fuhr; Jonathan Robinson<br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> Mathieu Weill; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> CWG-Stewardship accountability dependencies<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" class=""><u class=""></u>&nbsp;<u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Dear Lise and Jonathan,<br class="">
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Thank you for the very useful call last Friday, 23 January.&nbsp; It was<br class="">
helpful to hear updates from the CWG, and I hope the overview we provided<br class="">
of the CCWG's face-to-face meeting, Frankfurt 19-20 January, was<br class="">
informative and showed we are working in the same direction.<br class="">
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We held a session in Frankfurt to discuss the draft "CWG-Stewardship<br class="">
accountability dependencies" document, and the summary outcome of that<br class="">
discussion follows.&nbsp; You can also find details of the sessions, including<br class="">
staff notes and transcript on the CCWG wiki at<br class="">
<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=51418500" target="_blank" class="">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=51418500</a>&nbsp;<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" class="">and at&nbsp;<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Session+#4+--+Action+items+for+initiating+WS1+and+preparation+for+Singapore" target="_blank" class="">https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Session+%234+--+Action+items+for+initiating+WS1+and+preparation+for+Singapore</a>.&nbsp;<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" class="">We first presented your letter to the group and then, at the end of the meeting, came back to that point and discussed our response.&nbsp;<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" class="">• Budget Accountability and Transparency<br class="">
While the CCWG is considering reinforcing ICANN's accountability with<br class="">
regards to budget, the mechanisms would most probably not specifically<br class="">
address the IANA budget at a level of detail the CWG is likely to ask for. Therefore, we encourage the CWG to recommend<br class="">
measures to enhance transparency regarding the IANA budget and we will<br class="">
support requests for increased transparency.<br class="">
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• Accountability for (re)delegations<br class="">
As you can see from the transcript, the CCWG has extensively discussed this point, particularly to ensure the demarcation between the remits of the CCWG and the CWG is well understood. This relates especially to the sensitivities of ccTLD Registries related
 to (re)delegations and we would like to stress that we understand that the role of the ICANN Board with respect to (re)delegations should not go beyond its current role. Also, there is no intention by the CCWG to give an accountability mechanism decision-making
 powers relating to the (re)delegation of ccTLDs.<br class="">
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Notwithstanding the above and to the extent that the Board may take future decisions in this area, the CCWG intends to recommend accountability mechanisms that will be relevant.&nbsp;<br class="">
In any event, we expect to recommend a strengthened reconsideration process for Board as well as management/staff decisions.<br class="">
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<br class="">
• Independent Review of Board Actions<br class="">
CCWG is discussing introducing binding mechanisms of redress to the<br class="">
independent review process for certain decisions of the Board. We are very<br class="">
much in tune with CWG approach.<br class="">
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• Independent Appeals Panel<br class="">
We expect CCWG recommendations to be supportive to the CWG proposals, we<br class="">
aligned in our thinking/approach, but the CCWG is cognizant of the fact that the CWG might need to explore its own mechanisms .<br class="">
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• Control over ICANN Board decisions.<br class="">
When we met, this was a new section of the document and CCWG members had<br class="">
not had chance to review before the meeting.&nbsp; The CCWG is now considering<br class="">
options to challenge and overturn ICANN Board decisions.&nbsp; We are very<br class="">
aware of the need for caution so as not to undermine the bottom-up nature<br class="">
of the ICANN policy decision-making process.&nbsp; Community oversight of Board<br class="">
decisions would probably not extend to the ability to mandate a specific<br class="">
decision, but rather to overturn a Board decision or require the Board to<br class="">
make a decision in the case of inaction.<br class="">
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This avenue of work will be one of the focuses of CCWG attention for the<br class="">
coming weeks.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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