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FY15 budget seems to claim total is 3.0M. Can't say wheter there are
other items scattered around that are attributable to IANA without the
label on them.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 03/02/2015 04:36 PM, Avri Doria wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi,<br>
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I thought it was a obvious question, but several people did not think so,
and seemed to condemn the asking. Hence I have tried to explain why
I thought it important. Seemed the least I could do.<br><br>
I think needing to know is not limited to any particular model.<br><br>
If we can't get a real figure we might be able to calculate something
close using some standard reasoning:<br><br>
Full IANA employe salary budget * ICANN average burden multiplier
(including all overhead costs, including senior management costs,
administrative costs, travel, benefits, office space, insurance
etc)<br><br>
Companies geneally have this so they know the costs of adding each new
employee - it isn't just salary. Often this runs 100 - 200% of
salary.<br><br>
Then if we figure out the FTE (full time equivalent) assigned to each of
the ICG designated separable operational functions we would have a
reasonable back of the envelop figure for the costs per operational
community. While it would be good to someday have the exact
figures, such a calculation would at least give us general
understanding.<br><br>
Having once, briefly, been the CEO of a startup, I know this is not high
finance and should be trivial for someone that has all the numbers to
crunch.<br><br>
As for the RIR contribution to ICANN, if we assume their approx 1 million
contribution is 1% of the total ICANN income (not counting new gTLD
windfall and assuming a 100MUSD income), then we have an idea that their
contribution to IANA is that same 1% since they are not specifically
allocated funds.<br><br>
Sorry to be so pointed on this, especially since I have never gotten
involved in the financial issues at ICANN before. But it is a
critical piece of the puzzle and I think we need all of the
pieces.<br><br>
avri<br><br>
On 03-Feb-15 22:03, Alan Greenberg wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">One can dive down and find all
sorts of reasons for wanting/needing the budget (for instance, those who
oppose Contract Co want to know by what percentage the overall budget
might grow with additional structures). But regardless of the specific
rationale, it is reasonable to assign some numbers to this if only to put
the overall operation in perspective. <br><br>
ICANN presents its budgets base on objective. This makes complete sense
if you want to identify what a certain objective is costing, and one
would not, for instance want to say that IT has had it's budget double
when all of the growth is related to once strategic objective that was
adopted.<br><br>
But our need is a different one, and if the financial system cannot
deliver what we want automatically, it should be completely reasonable to
expect someone to do the calculation by hand. We should not have to be
debating this ad infinitum.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 03/02/2015 03:35 PM, Avri Doria wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi,<br><br>
I think these questions ought to asked because ICANN, funded mostly
by Names, pays for all of IANA's services.<br><br>
I think we need to know how much this costs and what the various portions
cost as we are making assumptions about future possible plans. It
is part of the stability question we need to answer. Something I
know quite well is that lack of budget results in lack of
stability.<br><br>
The ICG has declared the three operational entities separate, and each of
the three is declaring that they could leave ICANN if displeased - a
position I agree with. But this is a service that cost quite a bit
I expect and such independence would come at a cost. I think we
need know the costs in order to figure out this puzzle. We cannot
asume that thing could change without know what the costs would
be.<br><br>
For the Names side, we know that the cost = total cost for IANA -
costs(Numbers + Protocols). But what is that in numbers?<br><br>
<br>
avri<br><br>
On 03-Feb-15 02:34, Gomes, Chuck wrote:<br>
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· Why are we asking
questions about numbers and protocols? If there is a good reason
for that, I suggest that the questions regarding numbers and protocols be
separate from the questions for names.<br><br>
· Regarding “<b>Are your
concerned about the actual costs for operating the IANA functions, for
protocols and numbers, given these are currently funded by ICANN.</b>” –
Are don’t think it is accurate to say that they are currently funded by
ICANN; ICANN may fund some costs but a large part of the RIR and IETF
functions are not funded by ICANN.</blockquote><br>
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