<div dir="ltr">With great hesitation I would like to suggest that all of us have our hats, and it is inevitable our hats colour what people think we will say. That's even independent of becoming known for positions we take (or having others attribute to us a stubbornness about those positions which doesn't exist).<div><br></div><div>The old engineering motto of being liberal in what we accept and conservative in what we send probably works...</div><div><br></div><div>*retreats quietly out of the way*</div><div><br></div><div>JTC<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 February 2015 at 10:23, Chris Disspain <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" target="_blank">ceo@auda.org.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="font-family:'Verdana';font-size:13px;color:rgb(102,102,102)"><div>Hi Milton,</div><span><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Try to avoid personal insults, both in tone and content.</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></span>Excellent idea. Let’s all do that. <span><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The topic of conversation here was the Jones Day interpretation of California law and whether ICANN as corporate entity and its law firm will seek to preserve its power.</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div></span><div>That may be the thread but the topic of my comment and the one to which you responded was my suggestion that what Kieren said was a fact was not a fact.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><span><div><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Your status as a board member with an fiduciary interest in supporting the interests of the ICANN corporation is a relevant factor in this debate.</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></span><div>As I said:</div><div><br></div><div>"…..<font color="#666666">I am more than capable of dividing my responsibilities/opinions as a Board member from those as CEO of auDA from those of an individual. I appreciate that as an academic you have no experience of doing this…."</font></div><div><br></div><div>I rest my case.</div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On 10 Feb 2015, at 13:05 , Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><a name="14b715196ff88369_14b714ed631b8da2__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></a></div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 4.8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span>Chris Disspain [<a href="mailto:ceo@auda.org.au" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:ceo@auda.org.au</a>]<span> </span><br><br></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">You do yourself a disservice by pulling out the Board member card.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">MM: I am not sure what kind of disservice I have done to myself, but I think you are the one who is sending this debate into the gutter. Try to avoid personal insults, both in tone and content. The topic of conversation here was the Jones Day interpretation of California law and whether ICANN as corporate entity and its law firm will seek to preserve its power. Your status as a board member with an fiduciary interest in supporting the interests of the ICANN corporation is a relevant factor in this debate. Asserting that academics have no experience in this or that is not a relevant argument.</span></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></span></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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