<div dir="ltr">I'll joyfully flag up that I am in agreement with you on this one, Milton.<div><br></div><div>Not necessarily on who the audience should be, but on the sort of content that needs to be included.</div><div><br></div><div>If the chairs don't feel able to state clearly what the issues are, or highlight specific aspects of agreement/disagreement in non-coded language, but instead resort to largely meaningless updates to people who are already following things anyway, it does not bode well for real progress.</div><div><br></div><div>Without clear and straightforward communication, the end result will be deals done at the last minute by a select few, which will then cause resentment and frustration in all those that have invested a lot of time and trouble in the process but weren't one of final arbiters. (ICANN's biggest problem writ large.)</div><div><br></div><div>Can I please encourage people to be open and fair. And show leadership rather than pump out policy pap dressed up as diplomacy.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kieren</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In response to Kieren, I think it is common-sensical, not critical, to ask who the audience of this statement is.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I actually believe that the primary audience is CWG members and participants themselves, with the secondary audience being the people within the broader community
who want to know what kind of progress we are making. CWG members & participants need a sharper sense of where we are post Singapore and what we plan to do in the near term.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">To my mind the statement fails to reflect certain key facts about the current situation:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The group is still divided over ‘internal’ and ‘external’ solutions
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The Wednesday ‘working’ session in Singapore did nothing to advance or even to engage debate on that issue, but the Thursday session did start to clarify
some issue by listening to feedback on some (not all) of the 9 questions posed to the community<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The statement does not make it clear what process will be used to obtain additional feedback on the 9 questions, or what the timeline for that is<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Progress is limited by our need for legal advice, which may rule out or raise further questions about some of the models.
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The report _<i>must</i>_ tell us what is the status of the request for legal advice and provide an expected timeline for it. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The statement should reflect Board chair Crocker’s statement that NTIA and ICANN expect us to incorporate CCWG WS1 recommendations into our proposal,
which makes our timeline critically dependent on CCWG’s. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">My two cents<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="14b85479a01455f8__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kieren McCarthy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 12, 2015 8:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> GomesChuck<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] CWG-Stewardship Chairs' Statement - Summary of ICANN 52 Meeting<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Respectively, if I could add a critical voice.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This long update is all about process and contains very little real information.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Who is the audience? It reads as though the audIence is the people on this list congratulating ourselves for all the work we've done.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If the intended audience is people not in this list then can I suggest the update be:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Much shorter<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Highlight areas of progress and agreement<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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From: Grace Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>>
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Date:02/12/2015 6:56 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> <br>
Cc: <br>
Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] CWG-Stewardship Chairs' Statement - Summary of ICANN 52 Meeting
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<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2015-02-12-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2015-02-12-en</a><br>
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<p>The Cross Community Working Group (CWG) on Naming Related Functions held two sessions at the ICANN 52 Meeting in Singapore (8-12 February 2015): a two-hour <a href="http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-cwg-stewardship" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">working
session</span></a> on Wednesday, and a <a href="http://singapore52.icann.org/en/schedule/thu-cwg-stewardship" target="_blank">questions and answers session</a> on Thursday. In addition to these sessions, there was participation in sessions hosted by many other groups across
the ICANNcommunity, as well as many rewarding conversations and engagements throughout the week on behalf of the co-Chairs, the members and their chartering organizations, the individual participants of the CWG-Stewardship, and the broader multistakeholder
community.<a name="14b85479a01455f8_note1"></a><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2015-02-12-en#foot1" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">1</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Summary of ICANN 52 Meeting</span><u></u><u></u></h3>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">The Wednesday working session focused primarily on reviewing and refining the CWG-Stewardship's working methods. These revisions dedicate the group to working in a committee of the whole moving forward, meeting at minimum once per
week and, and building out the converging areas of the Proposal towards developing a final Proposal. As needed, the CWG-Stewardship will funnel specific subjects through expertise-based Task Forces. Task Forces will serve the purpose of developing specific
aspects of the Proposal as well as demonstrating incremental progress. Drafts from Task Forces will be brought to the group for review and decision making on inclusion within the draft proposal.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">The Thursday questions and answers session was focused on receiving community feedback. In preparation for the ICANN 52 Meeting, the CWG-Stewardship created a <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49351404/CWG-SingaporeDiscussionDocument-Final.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1422998880000&api=v2" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">Discussion
Document</span></a> [PDF, 447 KB] that attempted to capture and summarize the considerable progress made by this group to date and to encourage community input on key and intractable issues that were addressed in detail on Thursday.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">The CWG-Stewardship appreciates the high-quality comments and responses received, and expects to devote time in its next meeting on 19 February 2015 to further assess the feedback received. The group remains open to feedback on the
specific questions on the Discussion Document, and requests that feedback before the 19 February meeting. Feedback can be provided through a CWG-Stewardship member or participant, or to the support staff (<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</span></a>)
for transmission to the group.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Looking Ahead</span><u></u><u></u></h3>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">The ICANN 52 meeting maintained much needed focus on the work related to the IANA Stewardship Transition and Enhancing ICANNAccountability. Throughout the meeting the co-Chairs, the members and their chartering organizations, the individual
participants of the CWG-Stewardship, and the broader community all dedicated their time to constructive feedback and progress. With the sustained support of the community, the CWG-Stewardship commits to continuing to work at a high-intensity and pace. The
group will remain regularly engaged with the community and any interested observers in order to provide updates on its work as well as related elements such as receipt of legal advice, as it did during the <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=52232656" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">Webinars
on 3 February</span></a>.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Coordination with CCWG-Accountability</span><u></u><u></u></h3>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">As agreed to in their <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=52232471" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">Joint Statement</span></a>on 28 January 2015, the Chairs of both the CWG-Stewardship and the CCWG-Accountability
committed to attending and participating in each other's sessions at ICANN 52. The CWG-Stewardship recognizes that, wherever possible and appropriate, the group will take advantage of the efforts of the CCWG-Accountability to avoid duplication or overlaps
in the work to be done. With this robust coordination, the co-Chairs are assured of the effective progress of the CWG-Stewardship.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Work to Date</span><u></u><u></u></h3>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">The CWG-Stewardship began its work in October 2014, with regular weekly virtual meetings and a <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/8CLxAg" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">working meeting at ICANN 51</span></a> in Los Angeles,
California. In addition to ICANNsupported regular weekly CWG-Stewardship virtual meetings, and at the request of the Chairs, ICANNagreed to support a two-full-day <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2014-11-20-en" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">face-to-face
meeting in Frankfurt, Germany</span></a>on 19-20 November 2014 to advance the work of the group.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">On 1 December, the CWG-Stewardship published its draft proposal for a 21-day public comment period. Following the <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/50823498/CWG-Dec01PublicConsultFINAL.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1417638162000&api=v2" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">publication
of the draft proposal</span></a> [PDF, 1.7 MB], between 4 – 6 December, the CWG hosted <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=50823496" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">three public webinars</span></a> to present the draft proposal
and engage with the broader community.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">At the conclusion of the public comment, the CWG-Stewardship dedicated its time to full review and analysis of the feedback received, in particular during an <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=52232482" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">intensive
work weekend on 10-11 January</span></a>. As part of the outcome, the group began to study a series of alternative models that had not yet been fully considered. These models were presented in <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=52232656" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">two
public webinars</span></a> on 3 February and in a <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49351404/CWG-SingaporeDiscussionDocument-Final.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1422998880000&api=v2" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">Discussion Document</span></a> [PDF,
447 KB] that was released for discussion at ICANN 52 in Singapore.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">The next <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/Meetings" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">CWG-Stewardship working meeting</span></a> is scheduled for <strong>19 February from 11:00-13:00 UTC</strong>.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">There are plans for another face to face meeting on 25 – 27 March 2015.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt">Composition</span><u></u><u></u></h3>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">The CWG consists 138 people, organized as 19 members, appointed by and accountable to chartering organizations, and 119 participants, who participate as individuals. The CWG is an open group: anyone interested in the work of the CWG,
can join as a participant. Participants may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently active within ICANN, or self-appointed.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">Of the 138 CWG members and participants, the regional representation is as follows:<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u>47 Asia/Asia Pacific<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u>36 Europe<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u>31 North America<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u>12 Latin America<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u>12 Africa<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin:1.25rem">Of the 138 CWG members and participants, the stakeholder group representation is as follows:<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u>32 GNSO<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p style="margin:1.25rem"><a name="14b85479a01455f8_foot1"></a><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2015-02-12-en#note1" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">1</span></a> For a full list of sessions relevant to the IANA Stewardship Transition, please
see <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/CWG+to+Develop+an+IANA+Stewardship+Transition+Proposal+on+Naming+Related+Functions" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none">here</span></a>.<u></u><u></u></p>
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