<div dir="ltr">+1</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Andrew, <div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t think you are off your gourd.</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear colleagues,<br>
<br>
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 05:06:25AM -0800, Kieren McCarthy wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There are a few signs that ICANN corporate is being a little more open minded and helpful than in most of the previous SEVEN accountability reviews (but not all).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But when it comes to non-cosmetic changes, particularly over ICANN corporate&#39;s unquestionable final authority, I have seen only critical and defensive responses, as well as accusations of bad faith and various efforts to undermine the commenter - the same pattern that has played out for over a decade.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
This is not to pick on Kieren McCarthy, but those paragraphs where<br>
helpful to hang my remarks on.  I&#39;ve been thinking about something<br>
along these lines since Singapore and thought I&#39;d take this occasion<br>
to send.<br>
<br>
It seems to me that we heard in Singapore some pretty strong<br>
suggestions from parts of the community that we ought to concentrate<br>
on the narrow question of the IANA transition and how to make those<br>
arrangements at least as reliable and safe as the current arrangements<br>
are.  In my opinion, Larry Strickling also asked some pretty pointed<br>
questions about this group&#39;s focus on that narrow issue.<br>
<br>
It seems to me that the IETF and RIRs have come up with fairly narrow<br>
discussions of their issues, and have focussed on the specific issues<br>
for their communities.  I do not pretend that things are just the same<br>
in the names community, because of the way the IANA names functions<br>
and the policy functions are located in the same organization.  But<br>
perhaps we could focus on the exact places where the existing<br>
organizational boundaries inside ICANN (for the IANA function) are,<br>
and see whether there is a sort of &quot;accountability interface&quot; that<br>
could be placed there.  This is an admittedly less ambitious approach<br>
than the proposals that have been previously circulated, but I wonder<br>
whether this might not cut the problem down to a manageable size.  It<br>
seems to me that much of the conceptual work that has been done could<br>
be re-jigged to match that narrower task, too, and so we might be able<br>
to make speedy progress.<br>
<br>
Of course, that still leaves us with a difficult dependency, because<br>
the CCWG-Accountability work would need to complete and be compatible<br>
with what we might suggest.  But I think that is manageable, it&#39;s in<br>
any case a requirement, and it allows us to declare general<br>
discussions of, &quot;wWhat if the Board does X?&quot; out of scope here.<br>
<br>
Does this seem in any way a helpful direction, or am I off my gourd?<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
A<br>
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Andrew Sullivan<br>
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