<p dir="ltr">Hi,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Perhaps it's good to note that what ICANN does in gTLD land is normal organisation operation that is done at most cctld and also at every RIR as I will liken gTLD to a typical RIR/CCs in this context. So regulating in that sense may be normal although "coordinating" is what I prefer as a choice of word. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Whatever word we use in describing ICANN's role may not matter much. What may be important is to determine how much of those activities has significant community process embedded in it; which is largely in the CCWG scope to ensure.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers!<br>
sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 20 Feb 2015 22:49, "Milton L Mueller" <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Martin, in ccTLD land ICANN may not look like a regulator but in gTLD land here is what it does:
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">impose dispute resolution rules on every gTLD registrant in the world<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">decides on the supply of a resource (TLDs),
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">accredits registrars,
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">fixes or has the ability to fix the price for registries’ wholesale prices<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">establishes requirements, terms and conditions for the registry-registrar relationship<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">requires the use of certain technologies (e.g., DNSSEC)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I could go on…<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Regulators can run things but whether they do or not, ICANN is a regulator/policy maker.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Boyle<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 20, 2015 1:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christopher Wilkinson; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> Stewardship<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Definitely +1 to this idea, Lise.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And in response to Christopher, I heard Strickling refer to ICANN as one of the stakeholders. I’m not sure about ICANN as regulator and IANA functions
operator – regulators don’t really run stuff, do they? It might be a regulator for the gTLD (registry and registrar) operations, but I’d like to understand why you’d think that this also applied to the IANA functions operation.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Martin<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Wilkinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 February 2015 15:17<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> Stewardship<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Okay, +1<span>
</span>CW<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">PS:<span> </span>
However, I do not see the ICANN Board as a 'stakeholder' in its own right.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB">Rather, the ICANN Board is the Regulator holding the Ring among all the Stakeholders.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-GB">That is why the composition of the Board, the way it is appointed and its accountability to the Community, including Governments, is so important, going forward.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On 20 Feb 2015, at 12:15, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Lise,<br>
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This is a welcome idea and i am in support of it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">Thanks for providing prior notice<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Cheers!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Lise Fuhr <<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk" target="_blank">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">During the meeting in Singapore the co-chairs have picked up that ICANN Board is an important stakeholder for this groups as well. We have noticed that there
have been involvement from the Board in the CWG work during calls and during the actual meetings in Singapore. Because of this involvement, the fact that the board is a stakeholder and in order to ensure a continuously and open dialogue with the CWG, we find
that having a liaison from the board could be helpful. Not that the liaison will have a special status within the group but serve as a link between the CWG and the ICANN board, in line with how the CCWG has a liaison from ICANN Board.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Jonathan and I intend to approach the board regarding this in the beginning of next week.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Jonathan and Lise<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#888888">The key to understanding is humility - my view !<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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