<div dir="ltr">If you look at the Charters for the two WGs, you will see that there is an accountability piece for this WG and an (admittedly much broader) accountability piece for the other WG.  This is not the &quot;non-accountability WG.&quot;  Figuring out how to apply the dividing line may be more art than science, and needs to be pragmatic rather than doctrinaire, but should at least use the Charters as a starting point. <div><br></div><div>Our Charter:</div><div><p style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px"><u>Relationship to ICANN Accountability Review Process</u></p><p style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px">The IANA stewardship transition process is taking place alongside a parallel and related process on enhancing ICANN accountability. While maintaining the accountability of Internet identifier governance is central to both processes, this group’s scope is focused on the arrangements required for the continuance of IANA functions in an accountable and widely accepted manner after the expiry of the NTIA-ICANN contract. Nevertheless, the two processes are interrelated and interdependent and should appropriately coordinate their work. Accountability for the administration of the IANA functions (i.e., implementation and operational accountability), however, is properly within the scope of this working group.</p><p style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px">Accountability WG Charter:</p><p style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px"><strong style="font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px"><u>Link with scope of Cross Community Working Group (</u></strong><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg" rel="nofollow" style="font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px;color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none"><strong>CWG</strong></a><strong style="font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px"><u>) to Develop an IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions, and </u></strong><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/stewardship/community" class="" rel="nofollow" style="font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px;color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none"><strong>other groups</strong></a><strong style="font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px"><u>developing the IANA Stewardship Transition proposal</u></strong><u style="font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px">:</u><br></p><p style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px"><u> </u></p><p style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px">This process on Enhancing ICANN Accountability is taking place alongside a parallel and related process on the transition of the stewardship of the IANA functions through the CWG to Develop an IANA Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions (hereinafter CWG-Stewardship). The CWG-Stewardship’s scope is focused on the arrangements required for the continuance of IANA functions in an accountable and widely accepted manner after the expiry of the IANA Functions Contract. Accountability for the administration of the IANA functions (i.e., implementation and operational accountability) is not within the scope of the CCWG-Accountability as it is being dealt with by the CWG-Stewardship. Nevertheless, the two processes are interrelated and interdependent and should appropriately coordinate their work.</p><p style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px"> </p><p style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px">Other groups’ (i.e. the numbers and protocol parameters communities, as outlined in the ICG <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rfp-iana-stewardship-08sep14-en.pdf" class="" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none">Request for Proposals</a>) proposals are intended to cover accountability issues related to the IANA Stewardship Transition, as well as issues already being considered by RIRs and IETF communities related in their respective areas in their engagement with ICANN. These issues are outside of scope of the CCWG-Accountability. The CCWG-Accountability will communicate with these groups to ensure that the CCWG-Accountability does not cover issues going beyond its scope.</p><p style="margin:10px 0px 0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333330154419px;line-height:19.0476188659668px">Greg</p></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Andrew Sullivan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 02:24:23PM +0000, Milton L Mueller wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; That is indeed an important issue, but I&#39;m not sure it is directly related to<br>
&gt; &gt; the IANA transition as such.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sigh. It is related because in all other operational communities, the policy making function is separated from the IANA function. In DNS it is not.<br>
<br>
</span>Perhaps I should have stated explicitly, &quot;…given that there&#39;s in fact<br>
a whole other WG working on the accountability issues.&quot;  This is why I<br>
argued the other day that we need to work out the necessary and<br>
sufficient conditions for accountability but do no more.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
A<br>
<br>
--<br>
Andrew Sullivan<br>
<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a><br>
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