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    Hi,<br>
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    I do not understand the special power of a liaison, other than to
    speak for some other group in a representative manner.  I do not see
    it giving them any authority or consensus role in the decsions of
    CWG.  It seems to me to be an informational role and not a
    negotiation role. So personally I don't mind the addition of a
    liaison.<br>
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    Having said that, it does seem that it is controversial enough that
    perhaps it does need to be taken back to the chartering
    organizations for advice.  <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21-Feb-15 10:14, James Gannon wrote:<br>
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      I would somewhat agree with Milton, I would have concerns about
      the board being given a special liaison separate to its ability to
      participate in the work of the CWG as participants, if a special
      liaison was required then this should have been captured in the
      chartering of the CWG with the board either being given a members
      slot or being given a defined role as a liaison in the charter.
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      <div>I would be concerned that we run the risk of running afoul of
        the RFP from the ICG "Proposals should be developed through a
        transparent process that is open to and inclusive of all
        stakeholders interested in participating in the development of
        the proposal” if we think back to the initial foundation of the
        CWG we had a large amount of conflict over the division between
        members and participants, do we run the risk of going through
        that again with members, participants, official liaisons?</div>
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      <div>My 2c suggestion, would be that the chairs write a letter to
        the board inviting them to become active participants in the
        mailing list and work of the CWG to ensure that they are
        captured as relevant stakeholders (Some already are doing this
        but in personal capacities) that way we can both have input from
        the board which I agree would be beneficial to our work. I would
        not like to see also any group/representative elevated or
        singled out into formal status or position beyond that which the
        group has been working, very successfully, to date with.<br>
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        <div>James</div>
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            <div>On 21 Feb 2015, at 14:29, Milton L Mueller &lt;<a
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                    <span>I think ICANN has a stake, and thus agree that
                      it is both a regulator (as an institution) and a
                      stakeholder.</span></div>
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                    <span>However, since the transition involves ICANN
                      role and power more than any other stakeholder’s I
                      think ICANN should have a voice but I object to
                      the chairs apparent decision to privilege them
                      with a liaison.</span></div>
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                          <b><span>From:</span></b><span><span
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                            Doria<br>
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                            February 20, 2015 6:29 PM<br>
                            <b>To:</b><span
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                            <b>Subject:</b><span
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                            [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board
                            to CWG</span></div>
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                      Hi,</p>
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                        On 20-Feb-15 17:58, Christopher Wilkinson wrote:</div>
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                          I rest my case: the ICANN Board is the
                          Regulator; not a 'stakeholder'. </div>
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                      Just because some entity may or may not be a
                      regulator under some definition for 'regulator'
                      does not say anything about whether or not it is
                      also a stakeholder grouping or comprised of
                      stakeholders.<br>
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                      I personally I think of the Board as staff since
                      they are paid by ICANN.  And I think that staff
                      are stakeholders too.<br>
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                      There are probably many other ways in which their
                      stakeholder nature can be argued.  From the most
                      basic defintion, they too have a stake in the
                      recommendations and decisions being made.  If one
                      has a stake in a decison, they are, by definition,
                      a stakeholder.<br>
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                      One of the most surprising aspects of
                      multistakeholderism is the tendency some have to
                      define others as not having a stake.<br>
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