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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Milton,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sorry for the delayed response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It seems we are talking about two different things. I agreed below the ICANN as regulator model for gTLDs is one of ICANN’s functions. It does not, and should
not, have this regulatory role as the IANA functions operator. We need to keep ICANN’s various roles separate from the IANA functions operator role – ie it is not just keeping the policy separate, but also ICANN’s roles as gTLD regulator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">That we keep bringing in gTLD operational issues into the mix does concern me. I thought we had all agreed that we needed some form of separation of roles.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Martin
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@syr.edu]
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<b>Sent:</b> 20 February 2015 22:49<br>
<b>To:</b> Martin Boyle; Christopher Wilkinson; cwg-stewardship@icann.org Stewardship<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Martin, in ccTLD land ICANN may not look like a regulator but in gTLD land here is what it does:
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">impose dispute resolution rules on every gTLD registrant in the world<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">decides on the supply of a resource (TLDs),
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">accredits registrars,
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">fixes or has the ability to fix the price for registries’ wholesale prices<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">establishes requirements, terms and conditions for the registry-registrar relationship<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">requires the use of certain technologies (e.g., DNSSEC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I could go on…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regulators can run things but whether they do or not, ICANN is a regulator/policy maker.
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<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Boyle<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 20, 2015 1:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christopher Wilkinson; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> Stewardship<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Definitely +1 to this idea, Lise.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And in response to Christopher, I heard Strickling refer to ICANN as one of the stakeholders. I’m not sure about ICANN as regulator and IANA functions operator
– regulators don’t really run stuff, do they? It might be a regulator for the gTLD (registry and registrar) operations, but I’d like to understand why you’d think that this also applied to the IANA functions operation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christopher Wilkinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 February 2015 15:17<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> Stewardship<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Okay, +1<span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>CW<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PS:<span class="apple-tab-span"> </span> However, I do not see the ICANN Board as a 'stakeholder' in its own right.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>Rather, the ICANN Board is the Regulator holding the Ring among all the Stakeholders.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>That is why the composition of the Board, the way it is appointed and its accountability to the Community, including Governments, is so important, going forward.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 20 Feb 2015, at 12:15, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Lise,<br>
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This is a welcome idea and i am in support of it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks for providing prior notice<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Lise Fuhr <<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk" target="_blank">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">During the meeting in Singapore the co-chairs have picked up that ICANN Board is an important stakeholder for this groups as well. We have noticed that there have been involvement
from the Board in the CWG work during calls and during the actual meetings in Singapore. Because of this involvement, the fact that the board is a stakeholder and in order to ensure a continuously and open dialogue with the CWG, we find that having a liaison
from the board could be helpful. Not that the liaison will have a special status within the group but serve as a link between the CWG and the ICANN board, in line with how the CCWG has a liaison from ICANN Board.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Jonathan and I intend to approach the board regarding this in the beginning of next week.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Jonathan and Lise<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><i><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#006600">Seun Ojedeji,<br>
Federal University Oye-Ekiti<br>
web: </span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888"><a href="http://www.fuoye.edu.ng/" target="_blank">http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</a><br>
</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#006600">Mobile: +2348035233535</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888"><br>
</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#006600">alt email:<a href="http://goog_1872880453/" target="_blank">
</a><a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@fuoye.edu.ng</a></span></i><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#888888">The key to understanding is humility - my view !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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