<div dir="ltr">Chuck,<div><br></div><div>Client conflicts actually follow a fairly objective set of rules (although you have to be fairly well-versed in them to apply them correctly).  As I understand it, each firm had a direct conflict (i.e., they represented a client in a matter directly adverse to ICANN (i.e., ICANN was on the other side)) that disqualified them under the relevant ethical rules from taking on this representation.  I&#39;m not sure in each instance who identified the client relationship.  In one case, I&#39;m certain that the firm identified a conflict and withdrew without providing details.  I believe ICANN legal actually pressed them on it, to see if it might not be a real conflict and thus could be resolved, and the firm basically stated that they were certain it was a conflict and they were out. In one case where I know the facts, but not the origin, the conflict was clear -- the firm represented the &quot;plaintiff&quot; in an ongoing IRP.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m not sure in the other cases who noticed it first -- but I&#39;m not sure it actually matters, both because &quot;a conflict is a conflict&quot; and also because firms ultimately go through a very detailed conflict process before agreeing to take on a  matter (but they may not go through the whole process if they are just one of several firms under consideration) -- so even if ICANN said &quot;hey, you&#39;re suing us&quot; before that firm found out, the firm would have found out soon enough.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Gomes, Chuck <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">Thank you very much Greg.  Do I understand correctly that the four firms that withdrew due to conflicts did so on their own and were not disqualified by the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 23, 2015 3:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I write to update you all on the activities of the Client Committee.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Client Committee met on Friday, February 20.  Also attending were representatives of ICANN legal, since they will need to play a role in the selection and engagement of counsel.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We had initially identified a total of eight firms. Each firm has appropriate expertise in corporate governance, non-profit matters, trusts, etc.  Each firm also has a strong California presence, as well as other offices in the US and other
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<p class="MsoNormal">One firm has withdrawn due to workload issues.  Four firms have withdrawn due to client conflicts<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are left with a short list of three firms.  Each of these firms has now sent us a document discussing their relevant capabilities.  At least one member of the client committee has had a preliminary discussion with each firm.  We are
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<p class="MsoNormal">While we would like to reveal the names of the firms remaining on the short list, at this point, it is premature to do so.  We will need to ask each firm permission to identify it to this group.  We will discuss this with them during our
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<p class="MsoNormal">We will keep the CWG updated on our progress.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Greg Shatan<u></u><u></u></p>
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