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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes, maybe we could cool down some of the concerns if you just added Kieren and one other independent to it.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kieren McCarthy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cwg-stewardship@icann.org Stewardship<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <span style="font-size:9.5pt">How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with allowing full openness to all?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't see many others asking to join this committee so I'm not sure this question is valid.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What I would be more concerned about is if the first proper decision made by this group is done within a small group that refused to allows others in, even when asked.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with allowing full openness to all?<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Kieren McCarthy <<a href="mailto:kierenmccarthy@gmail.com" target="_blank">kierenmccarthy@gmail.com</a>>
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Date:02/24/2015 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: "Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Cc: Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> Stewardship"
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Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So far with this transition process, every group has been open to all those who wish to join with an expectation of participation.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would expect those same rules to apply here. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It strikes me that it would set a dangerous precedent if the chairs are allowed to create a closed group at any time.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In my opinion, as soon as we open this up to others it will become too large to be effective in what I believe will need to be an interactive process with the legal team selected. I personally favor keeping it as is and require transparency
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Date:02/24/2015 1:01 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: Kieren McCarthy <<a href="mailto:kierenmccarthy@gmail.com" target="_blank">kierenmccarthy@gmail.com</a>>
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Cc: "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> Stewardship" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd be interested in joining this group, help contribute.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can you advise how I join?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 24 Feb 2015, at 06:33, Kieren McCarthy <<a href="mailto:kierenmccarthy@gmail.com" target="_blank">kierenmccarthy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Client Committee met on Friday, February 20. Also attending were representatives of ICANN legal, since they will need to play a role in the selection and engagement of counsel.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We had initially identified a total of eight firms. Each firm has appropriate expertise in corporate governance, non-profit matters, trusts, etc. Each firm also has a strong California presence, as well as other offices in the US and other
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are left with a short list of three firms. Each of these firms has now sent us a document discussing their relevant capabilities. At least one member of the client committee has had a preliminary discussion with each firm. We are
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<p class="MsoNormal">While we would like to reveal the names of the firms remaining on the short list, at this point, it is premature to do so. We will need to ask each firm permission to identify it to this group. We will discuss this with them during our
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