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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">In my personal opinion, it is too early to decide that no changes should occur in the SLAs before transition.&nbsp; We should let the design team come up with recommendations
 on that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Boyle<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 02, 2015 5:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jordan Carter; Seun Ojedeji<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cwg-stewardship@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Service Level Expectations Design Team Template<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Jordan, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I liked your first compilation.&nbsp; I am less clear on what your amendment does:&nbsp; is it that the design team will seek to identify specific areas
 of SLA that should be amended <i>before</i> transition?&nbsp; In other words, that a revised SLA would need to be negotiated (let&#8217;s not forget that we are talking about an agreement and there are usually consequences on amending service levels).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Without having any clear idea of what the design team might decide falls in this revised category, I&#8217;m not very happy with munging b) and c):&nbsp;
 processes that allow us to maintain the SLAs post transition and pre-transition changes.&nbsp; If it really is necessary to amend specific terms before transition, that is an additional step:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">a) identification of any conditions that need to be amended or updated
<b>before</b> transition and what needs to be done in order to address these concerns;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">b) porting across existing service level obligations to the post-transition environment;&nbsp; and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">c) creating the possibility of reviewing and changing them in future.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">d) Regular reviewing and updating the substantive content<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The design team would therefore look at a)-c). And I would expect there to be very few &#8211; and clearly justified &#8211; items under a).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jordan Carter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 01 March 2015 07:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Seun Ojedeji<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Service Level Expectations Design Team Template<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I've thought of a b/c mid point complication:&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">It is:&nbsp;whether anything needs to be added to currently documented SLA standards to allow the transition to be acceptable to any key customer community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">That's not a wholesale review but it's a little more than b), while respecting the need for conservatism and efficiency....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Jordan&nbsp;<br>
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On Sunday, 1 March 2015, Seun Ojedeji &lt;<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">&#43;1 to Jordan's specific suggestion as well;&nbsp; considering that everything works just fine right now is an indication that repeating the current SLA would at least maintain status quo.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Will be good if that methodology is applied to other design teams as much as possible.
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The goal is to build a stronger ICANN and so long as we have a&nbsp; multistakeholder means/process to do that, then our job is done.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Cheers!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On 1 Mar 2015 01:46, &quot;Chris Disspain&quot; &lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ceo@auda.org.au');" target="_blank">ceo@auda.org.au</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">You read me right, man ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">On 1 Mar 2015, at 11:35 , Jordan Carter &lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jordan@internetnz.net.nz');" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>&gt;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">I think Chris's proposal makes sense too in logically separating:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">a) porting across existing service level obligations to the post-transition environment;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">b) creating the possibility of reviewing and changing them in future; and&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">c) reviewing and updating the substantive content<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">If I read him right a) and b) should be done, but c) should not.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">That might trim the work this design team needs to do and make finalising the names community proposal easier...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">On 1 March 2015 at 08:56, Avri Doria &lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','avri@acm.org');" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 changes to those service levels that could be employed immediately after transition and on an ongoing basis.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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