<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think that any of the following are legally possible:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. ICANN retains the contracts with the RIRs and IETF, with a minor amendment allowing ICANN to offer the service, but have the service fulfilled by its wholly-controlled affiliate (or wholly-owned subsidiary) PTI.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. ICANN enters into an &quot;assignment and assumption&quot; agreement whereby PTI takes over ICANN&#39;s position in the agreements.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3, ICANN and the RIRs/IETF terminate the current agreements, and IANA enters into new agreements with the RIRs and IETF.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The first option fits the principle of &quot;change as little as possible (and explain any change you make&quot;.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The second option fits the principle of &quot;make PTI as easily separable from ICANN as possible.&quot;</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The third option fits the principle of &quot;let&#39;s make everything messy and complicated.&quot;</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">(Caveat: Not legal advice, but a response from a lawyer)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:12pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d">Gregory S. Shatan </span></b><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#17365d">ï</span></b><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#17365d"> </span></b><b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#c0504d">Abelman
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Let me build on some of the questions Andrew asked. A later message will add a few questions of my own.<br>
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&gt; In I.A, particularly in numbers 4 and 6, I can&#39;t tell whether the<br>
&gt; assumption is that there are new agreements between PTI and the<br>
&gt; RIRs, and PTI and IETF.  I think the fact that PTI is a new legal entity<br>
&gt; means that new agreements would be required.  Is that correct?<br>
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</span>I think that&#39;s not necessarily correct, but agree that this is a question worth resolving. If the PTI is an affiliate of ICANN and is created by means of a transfer of the assets of the existing IANA department to the PTI affiliate, why couldn&#39;t ICANN&#39;s IANA department&#39;s existing contracts go along with it? Corporations with contracts change ownership all the time, and divest entities all the time; I suspect that this does not require them to re-negotiate every contract they have. But let&#39;s let the lawyers answer that.<br>
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&gt; reason I ask this is because there is a possible risk of things coming<br>
&gt; apart if the other operational communities need to be engaged in a<br>
&gt; new negotiation.  If PTI just takes the existing agreements and does a<br>
&gt; global search and replace for ICANN with PTI, that&#39;s nice, but it doesn&#39;t<br>
&gt; solve everything.  For instance, the IETF would have to publish a new<br>
&gt; version of RFC 2860.<br>
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</span>I would note that the CRISP proposal requires a new MoU or contract anyway, so I don&#39;t see any inconveniences there. So we are really only talking about protocols community.<br>
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