<div dir="ltr">Milton:<div><br></div><div><font color="#000000">I am not implying that we should or not be concerned about the potential <font face="Calibri, sans-serif">costs associated with separating out the department. I am saying that the statements are subjective. <i>F</i></font><i>airly minima</i>l and <i>not be significant </i>are not really defined. For example, <i>fairly minimal</i> for some may be nothing and <i>not be significant</i> (in relation to cost) for others might mean 1% of ICANN's total budget. Who knows?</font></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the suggestion proposed in your comparison example. That is exactly what we need: real data that will support the <font face="Calibri, sans-serif">f</font><i style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">airly minima</i><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">l and </span><i style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">not be significant </i><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">statements.</span></div><div><br></div><div>-ed<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hello Eduardo:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Can you identify any objective reasons why we should be extremely concerned about the potential costs associated
with separating out a department that consists of only 7 people (even less, if it’s only the “names-related part) with no heavy, specialized capital equipment?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">How would the cost of these legal formalities and minor asset reshufflings compare to the cost of sending ICANN’s
CEO and assistants to the World Economic Forum for a week? How would it compare to the costs of running 42 conference calls for the CWG over the course of 8 months, with 3-5 staff members present on each call? Within those parameters, I would suggest that
the term “not that significant” or “fairly minimal” is not so subjective or arbitrary.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I am not arguing against Chuck’s suggestion that ICANN accounting develop an estimate (and it will be an estimate,
not a measurement). More information can be useful. But we do have objective knowledge of the size of the IANA functions operation and in the greater scheme of things I think these costs are going to look pretty darn small once those estimates are developed.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Let’s also not forget the potential security advantages of separating IANA functions infrastructure from routine,
unrelated ICANN stuff. There could be significant reductions of risk, and thus cost, there.
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I am not suggesting that we do not accept counsel's advice but to adjust what I consider subjective statements.
<i><span style="font-style:italic">"fairly minimal </span></i>and<i><span style="font-style:italic"> not be significant"</span></i> need to be defined to make them objective. Based on my business experience also cost is always impredecible especially when you
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