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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think Steve DelBianco suggested during one of the hearings that .mil and .gov could enter into a contract with ICANN. That would
make them contracted parties and perhaps could be considered gTLD registries, but I expect that is some way off and considering them to be gTLDs would potentially be controversial.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>CW Lists<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 14 May 2015 2:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cwg-stewardship@icann.org IANA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] .mil and .gov (and maybe .edu)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">Although not mentioned, .edu falls into roughly the same category.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">Well, very roughly. Over the years, .edu has 'wobbled' between a strictly US University Domain and something else (ill defined) including lower levels of education in the US
and an international dimension.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">Before CWG goes further, someone should ask the Registry (¿Educause?) for a list of the current Registrants.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My personal expectation would be that we shall finish up classifying .edu as a normal gTLD with a registration policy. However, it is NOT an 'open' gTLD. In the era of on-line courses, what is 'education' needs to be clearly and narrowly
defined. Meanwhile, many countries use an .sld in their ccTLD for their Universities. e.g. <<a href="http://www.soas.ac.uk/">http://www.soas.ac.uk/</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14 May 2015, at 21:49, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">In yesterday's Congressional hearings, the issue of .mil and .gov was brought up, due at least in part to the Defending Internet Freedom Act
<a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/5737">https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/5737</a>, and an opinion piece in US News & World Report. <a href="http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2015/05/13/congress-should-ask-tough-questions-about-icann-domain-name-transition">http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2015/05/13/congress-should-ask-tough-questions-about-icann-domain-name-transition</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The Defending Internet Freedom Act says (from the summary):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">the U.S. government will be granted ownership of the ".gov" and ".mil" top-level domains and specified servers will be maintained in the United States;</span><span style="color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">A couple of the Representatives raised concerns that .gov and .mil</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333"></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">
would be vulnerable to a transfer away from the USG, and asked the witnesses if ownership (or perpetual control) of .gov and .mil by the US should be ensured in the transition. Several panelists answered in the affirmative and I don't believe any opposed.</span><span style="color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">We have not really discussed this issue. I think it behooves us to deal with it. Given the historical and current use of these two domains< I would
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">Although not mentioned, .edu falls into roughly the same category. We should consider if we should accord it similar treatment.</span><span style="color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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