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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Christopher<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The context for calling out a TLD that is not a gTLD or a ccTLD was in response to the suggestion that if .arpa wanted to have representation
on the CSC there was no avenue for this to happen despite them being a TLD. So you are correct, a TLD not considered a gTLD or ccTLD is largely the group you have identified.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Not sure I understand what you mean by circumlocution, but
</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#1F4E79;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">the intention is to ensure that all direct customers of the IANA naming function had the opportunity to provide
a representative on the CSC, rather than ensure that the USG-based TLDs, or the ICANN-based TLDs, would somehow have an 'extra' seat on the CSC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Apologies for not responding to your earlier email, I admit with all the traffic on the list I find it hard to keep up and I simply
did not see it, but would agree that perhaps it would be prudent to reference the other TLDs that you have called out in the proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 14 May 2015 9:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Donna Austin; cwg-stewardship@icann.org IANA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Fwd: [CWG-Stewardship] Sidley punch list items considered by CSC Design Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Donna, Dear Friends and Colleagues: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With reference to the DT-C notes on the 'Punch List', attached, for which I thank you, allow me a short comment on Point 11: CSC Composition.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The concept of a TLD that is not a ccTLD or a gTLD is rather obscure. Many would consider that there are none such. However, internal evidence suggests that CWG considers that there are some.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In which case, to the best of my knowledge, the only candidates are .int, .gov, .edu and .mil. or .arpa,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">thus the DT-C comments under point 11, would appear to be a rather odd circumlocution, if the intention is to ensure that the USG-based TLDs, or the ICANN-based TLDs, would somehow have an 'extra' seat on the CSC.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I drew this question to your attention in my mail, below, of 26 February, but did not receive a reply.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Having reviewed in some detail the most recent version of the CWG transition proposal, I still find no reference to the above TLDs (with the exception of .int)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Indeed, if it is the CWG position that these TLDs should be somehow 'grandfathered' outside the IANA transition, then may I suggest that it behoves someone - not excluding NTIA - to say so clearly, now.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Otherwise there will be a lingering misunderstanding that would sit uncomfortably with the underlying proposition that the IANA transition is to the global multistakeholder Internet community.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Draft Proposal Version 2.0</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Date: </b>26 Feb 2015 13:50:44 GMT+01:00<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> Stewardship" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jonathan, Lise:<br>
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Thankyou for another draft magnum opus. As you say there are several aspects to be completed in greater detail.<br>
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Meanwhile, may I point out that under:<span class="xapple-tab-span"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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- and indeed in the whole document, there is no reference to the TLDs: .gov, .mil, .edu and .arpa.<br>
These are not gTLDs, as the reference to .int confirms. For the sake of completeness, it would not be appropriate to ignore them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Donna Austin <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@ariservices.com">Donna.Austin@ariservices.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Date:
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</span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:dt3@icann.org">dt3@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:dt3@icann.org">dt3@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As noted on Tuesday’s call, DT-C had a call to address DT-C items on Sidley’s punch list.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Attached are our comments.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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