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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Christopher,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The example used was .arpa but we also discussed the non-gTLD US registries .mil, .gov, .edu. And as you say, .int would also be a candidate, but in view of
its operator, that might be a bit of an anomaly! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">They are a class of customers who otherwise would not have a direct voice. As you said in your February e-mail, “These are not gTLDs, as the reference to .int
confirms. For the sake of completeness, it would not be appropriate to ignore them.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We did have discussions about non-members of the ccNSO and RySG, but if I remember correctly these would be included in the two registry operator classes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Donna or other members of DT-C might be able to add more (or correct).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hope this helps
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 May 2015 17:58<br>
<b>To:</b> CW Lists; Donna Austin; cwg-stewardship@icann.org IANA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: Sidley punch list items considered by CSC Design Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Christopher,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am not on DT-C so I cannot speak for them, but my understanding is that they were talking about TLD registries that are not members of the ccNSO
or RySG. Regardless, I think you raise an important issue that should be considered.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>CW Lists<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Donna Austin; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> IANA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: Sidley punch list items considered by CSC Design Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Donna, Dear Friends and Colleagues: <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">With reference to the DT-C notes on the 'Punch List', attached, for which I thank you, allow me a short comment on Point 11: CSC Composition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The concept of a TLD that is not a ccTLD or a gTLD is rather obscure. Many would consider that there are none such. However, internal evidence suggests that CWG considers that there are some.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In which case, to the best of my knowledge, the only candidates are .int, .gov, .edu and .mil. or .arpa,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">thus the DT-C comments under point 11, would appear to be a rather odd circumlocution, if the intention is to ensure that the USG-based TLDs, or the ICANN-based TLDs, would somehow have an 'extra' seat on the CSC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I drew this question to your attention in my mail, below, of 26 February, but did not receive a reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Having reviewed in some detail the most recent version of the CWG transition proposal, I still find no reference to the above TLDs (with the exception of .int)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Indeed, if it is the CWG position that these TLDs should be somehow 'grandfathered' outside the IANA transition, then may I suggest that it behoves someone - not excluding NTIA - to say so clearly, now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Otherwise there will be a lingering misunderstanding that would sit uncomfortably with the underlying proposition that the IANA transition is to the global multistakeholder Internet community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From: </span></b><span lang="EN-US">CW Lists <<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Draft Proposal Version 2.0</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Date: </span></b><span lang="EN-US">26 Feb 2015 13:50:44 GMT+01:00<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">To: </span></b><span lang="EN-US">Lise Fuhr <<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>>, Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Cc: </span></b><span lang="EN-US">"<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> Stewardship" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Jonathan, Lise:<br>
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Thankyou for another draft magnum opus. As you say there are several aspects to be completed in greater detail.<br>
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- and indeed in the whole document, there is no reference to the TLDs: .gov, .mil, .edu and .arpa.<br>
These are not gTLDs, as the reference to .int confirms. For the sake of completeness, it would not be appropriate to ignore them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Donna Austin <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@ariservices.com">Donna.Austin@ariservices.com</a>></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Sidley punch list items considered by CSC Design Team</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Date:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">13 May 2015 19:05:12 GMT+02:00</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Cc:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">"<a href="mailto:dt3@icann.org">dt3@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:dt3@icann.org">dt3@icann.org</a>></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As noted on Tuesday’s call, DT-C had a call to address DT-C items on Sidley’s punch list.</span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Attached are our comments.</span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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