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But is changing it REALLY on our critical path?<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 15/05/2015 04:36 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:<br><br>
<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Speaking of .INT, I am very
surprised that there has been no discussion of IANA divesting .INT and
putting it in someone else’s hands. While this is not a particularly
urgent issue for the transition, it seems obvious to me that IANA, as the
root zone file administrator, should not be in the business of running a
TLD registry for international intergovernmental organizations. Why has
this issue not surfaced? <br>
<br>
--MM<br>
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mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gomes,
Chuck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cwg-stewardship@icann.org IANA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: Sidley punch list items
considered by CSC Design Team<br>
<br>
You are correct Greg. Donna set me straight. It would help if
I read all of the DT-C notes.<br>
<br>
Chuck<br>
<br>
<b>From:</b> Greg Shatan
[<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">
mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2015 1:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CW Lists; Donna Austin;
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>
IANA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: Sidley punch list items
considered by CSC Design Team<br>
<br>
Chuck,<br>
<br>
I'm not too sure about that. The punch list, asks the question
"Composition: who will select the TLD representative that is not a
ccTLD or gTLD registry?" so it seems to refer to a single
representative, and one that is not a ccTLD or gTLD (regardless of
membership in any ICANN structure). The punch list further refers
to Annex G, page 59. Page 59 has the following list of proposed
Registry members of the CSC:<br>
<br>
· 2 x gTLD registry
operators<br>
· 2 x ccTLD registry
operators<br>
· 1 additional TLD
representative not considered a ccTLD or gTLD registry operator such as
the IAB for .ARPA could also be included in the minimum requirements but
is not mandatory<br>
<br>
Based on these data points, it appears that DT C is discussing the third
bullet point, which gives .ARPA as an example. (The third
bulletpoint also notes this "seat" is not
"mandatory.") Therefore, it does look like the reference
is to that very limited universe cited by Christopher Wilkinson: .ARPA
(IANA/IAB), .INT (IANA), .MIL (US Dept of Defense), .EDU (US Dept of
Commerce/Dept of Education/Educause), .GOV (US General Services
Admin). (There are other "sTLDs" but these now seem to be
considered gTLDs for all intents and purposes, such as .mobi, .travel,
.xxx, etc.) <br>
<br>
I don't see the harm in having a seat for these 5 (really 4, since as
Martin notes, it would be odd to have the .INT operator (IANA) in the
CSC) registries, since as Martin also notes, they do not otherwise have a
direct voice or a natural channel through the GNSO or ccNSO.<br>
<br>
<br>
Greg<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Gomes, Chuck
<<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
Christopher,<br>
<br>
I am not on DT-C so I cannot speak for them, but my understanding is that
they were talking about TLD registries that are not members of the ccNSO
or RySG. Regardless, I think you raise an important issue that
should be considered.<br>
<br>
Chuck<br>
<br>
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cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
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Lists<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Donna Austin;
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>
IANA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: Sidley punch list items considered
by CSC Design Team<br>
<br>
Dear Donna, Dear Friends and Colleagues: <br>
<br>
With reference to the DT-C notes on the 'Punch List', attached, for which
I thank you, allow me a short comment on Point 11: CSC Composition.<br>
<br>
The concept of a TLD that is not a ccTLD or a gTLD is rather obscure.
Many would consider that there are none such. However, internal evidence
suggests that CWG considers that there are some.<br>
<br>
In which case, to the best of my knowledge, the only candidates are .int,
.gov, .edu and .mil. or .arpa,<br>
thus the DT-C comments under point 11, would appear to be a rather odd
circumlocution, if the intention is to ensure that the USG-based TLDs, or
the ICANN-based TLDs, would somehow have an 'extra' seat on the CSC.<br>
<br>
I drew this question to your attention in my mail, below, of 26 February,
but did not receive a reply.<br>
Having reviewed in some detail the most recent version of the CWG
transition proposal, I still find no reference to the above TLDs (with
the exception of .int)<br>
<br>
Indeed, if it is the CWG position that these TLDs should be somehow
'grandfathered' outside the IANA transition, then may I suggest that it
behoves someone - not excluding NTIA - to say so clearly, now.<br>
Otherwise there will be a lingering misunderstanding that would sit
uncomfortably with the underlying proposition that the IANA transition is
to the global multistakeholder Internet community.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
CW<br>
<br>
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<dd>Begin forwarded message:<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>From: </b>CW Lists
<<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu">
lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>><br>
<dd>Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Draft Proposal Version 2.0<br>
<dd>Date: </b>26 Feb 2015 13:50:44 GMT+01:00<br>
<dd>To: </b>Lise Fuhr
<<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>>,
Jonathan Robinson
<<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>
><br>
<dd>Cc:
</b>"<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> Stewardship"
<<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Jonathan, Lise:<br><br>
<dd>Thankyou for another draft magnum opus. As you say there are several
aspects to be completed in greater detail.<br><br>
<dd>Meanwhile, may I point out that under:<br>
<dd>I. The Community’s Use of the IANA</b> <br><br>
<dd>- and indeed in the whole document, there is no reference to
the TLDs: .gov, .mil, .edu and .arpa.<br>
<dd>These are not gTLDs, as the reference to .int confirms. For the sake
of completeness, it would not be appropriate to ignore them.<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>Regards<br>
<dd> <br>
<dd>CW<br><br>
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Begin forwarded message:<br>
<br>
From: </b>Donna Austin
<<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@ariservices.com">
Donna.Austin@ariservices.com</a>><br>
Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Sidley punch list items considered by CSC
Design Team<br>
Date: </b>13 May 2015 19:05:12 GMT+02:00<br>
To:
</b>"<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:dt3@icann.org">dt3@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:dt3@icann.org">dt3@icann.org</a>><br>
<br>
All<br>
<br>
As noted on Tuesday’s call, DT-C had a call to address DT-C items on
Sidley’s punch list.<br>
<br>
Attached are our comments.<br>
<br>
Happy to answer any questions.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Donna<br>
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