<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">... I see it as an organization replacing a bad service provider with a good one. No more - or no less - significant than changing an ISP.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't think the change is as simple as that; A change of IANA operator goes beyond just swapping and signing contract, the experience history in the current IANA operating staff will be lost and that is of great importance to me. Secondly i think its quite an hypothesis to already determined that the new IANA operator is a good one, without having tried them in any way. <br><br>Its easier and can be condoned now because we are still maintaining the operation process and staff of IANA within PTI. So a total change in IANA operator....will indeed be nuclear option to me. (short of a better word than Nuclear)<br><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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To get good accountability in this case you need quick and decisive action to replace an incompetent or rogue operator.<br>
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> <a href="mailto:bounces@icann.org">bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Avri Doria<br>
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> To: <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] update on DT X Separation Process<br>
><br>
> hi,<br>
><br>
> I have responded. Several times I thought. Maybe you just did not like my<br>
> epxlanation.<br>
><br>
> 1. i do not believe that the same group that recommends a so-called nuclear<br>
> process is the one to execute that process. It is a checks and balances sort of<br>
> thing. You do not give yourself a task of this magnitude.<br>
><br>
> 2. I see taking a further step in the separation process as needing the same<br>
> sort of full community review and support that transition requires. This is<br>
> being defined as an extraordinary event , not a regualr event in the current<br>
> formulaton.<br>
><br>
> 3. I believe that those who review and accept this transition proposal should<br>
> be able to have the assurance that the ground is not going to easily slip<br>
> under them. If we make it too easy to go to RFP or spin out of the PTI, they<br>
> could be forgiven for insecurity about our proposal<br>
><br>
> That is why I beleive it is not<br>
><br>
> Over-bureaucratization of this process<br>
><br>
> but rather giving a serious issue the proper full community due<br>
> consideration.<br>
><br>
> avri<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 15-May-15 11:26, Milton L Mueller wrote:<br>
> > Avri:<br>
> > I support your concepts of the possible outcomes but I don't understand<br>
> why a "separation review" is conceived as a new and independent process<br>
> from the IFR. I've said this before but there has been no answer. If an IFR<br>
> indicates that the community is so dissatisfied that separation is a live<br>
> possibility, it seems that action needs to be taken expeditiously instead of<br>
> launching another review process. Isn't it possible that this should be more<br>
> like a choice of a service vendor than something like the ICG/IANA<br>
> stewardship transition? We are not changing stewardship or high-level<br>
> institutions, we are changing a functions operator. Over-bureaucratization of<br>
> this process actually works against accountability by making the costs of a<br>
> switch so high as to be prohibitive.<br>
> ><br>
> > May I please have a response to this?<br>
> ><br>
> > --MM<br>
> ><br>
> >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> >><br>
> >> To relate this to the SR, each would present a different set of<br>
> >> opportunities for SR action, that is why the 5 possibilities in the<br>
> >> SR text are really just examples, an incomplete set in the whole<br>
> >> universe of examples, that the SR mechanism could recmmend.<br>
> >><br>
> >> As I mentioned in the call this is my personal reason for thinking<br>
> >> that an SR event, needs to be quite similar to the current Transition<br>
> event.<br>
> >> It would be a big deal that the whole community would need to be<br>
> >> involved in.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
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