<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">+1.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">The University of the West Indies is registered as <a href="http://uwi.edu">uwi.edu</a>.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">We are a regional institution with four campuses and 20 or so centres across the English-speaking Caribbean that began life with a royal [meaning British] charter as a university college of the University of London. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">We also manage the .bb and .jm ccTLDs.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large">-Carlton</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><br>==============================<br>Carlton A Samuels<br>Mobile: 876-818-1799<br><i><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i><br>=============================</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Martin Boyle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk" target="_blank">Martin.Boyle@nominet.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Currently its policy on eligibility is “Only U.S. postsecondary institutions that are institutionally accredited by an agency on the U.S. Department of Education's
list of Nationally Recognized Accrediting Agencies (see recognized accrediting bodies) may obtain an Internet name in the .edu domain. These include both "Regional Institutional Accrediting Agencies" and "National Institutional and Specialized Accrediting
Bodies" recognized by the U.S. Department of Education.” That seems to me to put it in the same group as the others.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As Christopher says, .gov, .edu and .mil are really quite similar to US specialist ccTLDs – often dealt with at the second level for ccTLDs. In that light,
I think it is irrelevant who their registrants are (that is a national issue). But I do not agree that it “belongs in” (by which I mean eligible to be a member of) the GNSO (and neither does it fit in the ccNSO).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">And I really do think we would be wasting our time to “clearly and narrowly” define education. In .edu’s case, that is for Educause to work out.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 14 May 2015 22:58<span class=""><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a> IANA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] .mil and .gov (and maybe .edu)<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">Although not mentioned, .edu falls into roughly the same category.</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">Well, very roughly. Over the years, .edu has 'wobbled' between a strictly US University Domain and something else (ill defined) including lower levels of education in the US
and an international dimension.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">Before CWG goes further, someone should ask the Registry (¿Educause?) for a list of the current Registrants.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My personal expectation would be that we shall finish up classifying .edu as a normal gTLD with a registration policy. However, it is NOT an 'open' gTLD. In the era of on-line courses, what is 'education' needs to be clearly and narrowly
defined. Meanwhile, many countries use an .sld in their ccTLD for their Universities. e.g. <<a href="http://www.soas.ac.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.soas.ac.uk/</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14 May 2015, at 21:49, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">In yesterday's Congressional hearings, the issue of .mil and .gov was brought up, due at least in part to the Defending Internet Freedom Act
<a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/5737" target="_blank">https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/5737</a>, and an opinion piece in US News & World Report. <a href="http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2015/05/13/congress-should-ask-tough-questions-about-icann-domain-name-transition" target="_blank">http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2015/05/13/congress-should-ask-tough-questions-about-icann-domain-name-transition</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The Defending Internet Freedom Act says (from the summary):<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">the U.S. government will be granted ownership of the ".gov" and ".mil" top-level domains and specified servers will be maintained in the United States;</span><span style="color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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would be vulnerable to a transfer away from the USG, and asked the witnesses if ownership (or perpetual control) of .gov and .mil by the US should be ensured in the transition. S</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">everal panelists
answered in the affirmative and I don't believe any opposed.</span><span style="color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#333333">Although not mentioned, .edu falls into roughly the same category. We should consider if we should accord it similar treatment.</span><span style="color:#333333"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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