<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Same as Chuck and Matthew...</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Matthew Shears <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org" target="_blank">mshears@cdt.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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My understanding was the same as Chuck's. <br>
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Matthew<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>On 6/11/2015 11:53 AM, Gomes, Chuck
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In
fact, my understanding is that the CSC cannot launch a
Special IFR but only escalates to the ccNSO and GNSO for
that consideration. Donna/Staffan – please correct me if I
am wrong on that.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Chuck<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 11, 2015 3:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond';
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Triggering of
Special IFR<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">Olivier,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">I agree with you understanding in the second
instance i.e. as per Annex F.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-CA">" </span><span style="color:#3366ff">Following
the exhaustion of the above escalation mechanisms, the ccNSO
and GNSO will be responsible for checking and reviewing
the outcome of the CSC process (as defined in Annex G), and
the IANA Problem Resolution Process (as defined in Annex J)
and for determining whether or not a Special IFR is
necessary. After consideration, which may include a public
comment period and must include meaningful consultation with
other SO/ACs, the Special IFR could be triggered by a
supermajority vote of each of the ccNSO and GNSO Councils
according to their normal procedures for determining
supermajority.
</span>"<br>
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To me, this translates to: a special IFR can be launched by
CSC *and* GNSO *and* ccNSO agreeing that a special IFR needs
to be launched. It is impossible for the CSC *or* the GNSO
*or* the ccNSO to launch a special IFR singlehandedly.<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-CA">Jonathan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond [<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">mailto:ocl@gih.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 June 2015 08:30<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] Triggering of Special
IFR<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-CA">Hello all<br>
<br>
looking at the slide deck for the presentation (downloadable
from <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=53778352" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=53778352</a> ),
page 12 , I raised a question on the first Webinar.<br>
The slide says: </span><span style="color:#3366ff" lang="EN-CA">"Review cycles: 1st review to occur no more
than 2 years post-transition; then every 5 years. Or by
special request of CSC, GNSO, or ccNSO (Special IFR)."</span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
<br>
I took up this sentence and asked: "A Special IFR can be
launched by CSC, GNSO, *or* ccNSO? I was under the
impression that a Special IFR can be launched by CSC, GNSO
*and* ccNSO" only.<br>
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I was told, in response, that the slide is correct, and an
IFR can be launched by the CSC, or ccNSO or GNSO.<br>
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The *or* vs. *and* is very important.<br>
<br>
So I looked at the proposal again, Annex F.<br>
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" </span><span style="color:#3366ff">Following the
exhaustion of the above escalation mechanisms, the ccNSO and
GNSO will be responsible for checking and reviewing
the outcome of the CSC process (as defined in Annex G), and
the IANA Problem Resolution Process (as defined in Annex J)
and for determining whether or not a Special IFR is
necessary. After consideration, which may include a public
comment period and must include meaningful consultation with
other SO/ACs, the Special IFR could be triggered by a
supermajority vote of each of the ccNSO and GNSO Councils
according to their normal procedures for determining
supermajority.
</span>"<br>
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To me, this translates to: a special IFR can be launched by
CSC *and* GNSO *and* ccNSO agreeing that a special IFR needs
to be launched. It is impossible for the CSC *or* the GNSO
*or* the ccNSO to launch a special IFR singlehandedly.<br>
<br>
So is the slide on page 12 and the response I was given on the
First Webinar right or wrong? This is a serious issue.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<span lang="EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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