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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Very good question in my opinion Greg. The President/CEO/Managing Director person could attend Board meetings at the pleasure of the Board even if he/she was
not Board member; in fact, I think that is common practice by Boards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 15, 2015 6:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Seun Ojedeji; avri; cwg-stewardship@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">In many ways, it would be simpler if PTI did not have the President/CEO/Managing Director person on its Board, and instead had 3 ICANN employees on the PTI Board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">What are the advantages of having this person on the PTI Board?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My concern related to the fact that we are dealing with a very small board. Having a PTI employee
on a board of 5 is very different than doing so on a larger board.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Seun Ojedeji<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 15, 2015 5:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> avri<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>RIRs (sure of AFRINIC) does have a voting CEO on it's board.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 15 Jun 2015 21:20, "Avri Doria" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi,<br>
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A clarification, saying ex official means saying it is because of<br>
another role held.<br>
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Do you also mean that this should be a non voting seat?<br>
I think you do, but want to make sure.<br>
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I would note that ICANN has a voting CEO on its Board.<br>
Does ISOC? How about the RIRs?<br>
Just curious.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
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On 15-Jun-15 16:07, James Gannon wrote:<br>
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> Greg,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> With regards to questions 3, 4 and 6:<br>
><br>
> As a matter of good governance practice I would have serious concerns<br>
> about an employee of PTI sitting on the board of PTI with the<br>
> exception of the CEO ex officio.<br>
><br>
> I would appreciate input from others but certainly in Ireland and<br>
> France where I’ve sat on boards it’s would not be considered an<br>
> acceptable practice. And I agree I haven’t seen this issue discussed<br>
> and any advice on best practice given to date.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -James<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *From:*<a href="mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client-bounces@icann.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan<br>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2015 8:15 PM<br>
> *To:* <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>; Client<br>
> *Subject:* [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> All:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> In the course of discussing the composition of the "inside"<br>
> (controlled) PTI Board, I believe we have stated that three seats<br>
> would be appointed by ICANN, with two being unspecified ICANN<br>
> employees and one being the "IANA Managing Director." I've been asked<br>
> to clarify who this IANA Managing Director is (since this title does<br>
> not currently exist). Specifically:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 1. Will the IANA Managing Director be an employee of ICANN or of PTI?<br>
><br>
> 2. Is this intended to be the person in the role currently held by<br>
> Elise Gerich (currently a VP of ICANN for IANA and Technical<br>
> Operations)?<br>
><br>
> 3. If this person is an employee of PTI and not ICANN, does that<br>
> still qualify for purposes of making it an inside board (keeping in<br>
> mind that ICANN does not "own" PTI, and that the only reason this<br>
> person is controlled by ICANN is because ICANN controls PTI (which<br>
> creates a circularity of reasoning))?<br>
><br>
> 4. Can this person be an employee of ICANN _and_ PTI (at least so<br>
> that question 3 is resolved)?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Some next level questions:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 5. Why are we calling this person a "Managing Director," which is not<br>
> commonly used in US non-profit corporations to my experience? (The<br>
> typical senior board-appointed offices are President, Vice President,<br>
> Secretary and Treasurer. Managing Director seems to show up primarily<br>
> in investment banks and other financial services entities. If this<br>
> person is intended to be at the helm of PTI, we should use the term<br>
> President.)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 6. How will the board handle matters related to this person<br>
> (compensation, etc.)? If she recuses herself, there will only be 4<br>
> directors voting.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I look forward to clarification and apologize if this is clear<br>
> somewhere and I missed it.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Greg<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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