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On Jun 15, 2015 11:39 PM, &quot;James Gannon&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hey Avri,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My preference would be that the CEO of PTI be in a non-voting seat yes</p>
<p dir="ltr">The CEO should be allowed to  break a tie in case of a deadlock at the board.<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes would like to see how other similar orgs handle these questions.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -James<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Avri Doria<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:19 PM<br>
&gt; To: <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A clarification, saying ex official means saying it is because of another role held.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Do you also mean that this should be a non voting seat?<br>
&gt; I think you do, but want to make sure.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I would note that ICANN has a voting CEO on its Board.<br>
&gt; Does ISOC? How about the RIRs?<br>
&gt; Just curious.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; avri<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 15-Jun-15 16:07, James Gannon wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Greg,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; With regards to questions 3, 4 and 6:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; As a matter of good governance practice I would have serious concerns<br>
&gt; &gt; about an employee of PTI sitting on the board of PTI with the<br>
&gt; &gt; exception of the CEO ex officio.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I would appreciate input from others but certainly in Ireland and<br>
&gt; &gt; France where I&#39;ve sat on boards it&#39;s would not be considered an<br>
&gt; &gt; acceptable practice. And I agree I haven&#39;t seen this issue discussed<br>
&gt; &gt; and any advice on best practice given to date.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; -James<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; *From:*<a href="mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org">cwg-client-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
&gt; &gt; [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org">cwg-client-bounces@icann.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan<br>
&gt; &gt; *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2015 8:15 PM<br>
&gt; &gt; *To:* <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>; Client<br>
&gt; &gt; *Subject:* [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; All:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; In the course of discussing the composition of the &quot;inside&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; (controlled) PTI Board, I believe we have stated that three seats<br>
&gt; &gt; would be appointed by ICANN, with two being unspecified ICANN<br>
&gt; &gt; employees and one being the &quot;IANA Managing Director.&quot;  I&#39;ve been asked<br>
&gt; &gt; to clarify who this IANA Managing Director is (since this title does<br>
&gt; &gt; not currently exist).  Specifically:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 1. Will the IANA Managing Director be an employee of ICANN or of PTI?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 2. Is this intended to be the person in the role currently held by<br>
&gt; &gt; Elise Gerich (currently a VP of ICANN for IANA and Technical<br>
&gt; &gt; Operations)?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 3.  If this person is an employee of PTI and not ICANN, does that<br>
&gt; &gt; still qualify for purposes of making it an inside board (keeping in<br>
&gt; &gt; mind that ICANN does not &quot;own&quot; PTI, and that the only reason this<br>
&gt; &gt; person is controlled by ICANN is because ICANN controls PTI (which<br>
&gt; &gt; creates a circularity of reasoning))?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 4.  Can this person be an employee of ICANN _and_ PTI (at least so<br>
&gt; &gt; that question 3 is resolved)?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Some next level questions:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 5.  Why are we calling this person a &quot;Managing Director,&quot; which is not<br>
&gt; &gt; commonly used in US non-profit corporations to my experience?  (The<br>
&gt; &gt; typical senior board-appointed offices are President, Vice President,<br>
&gt; &gt; Secretary and Treasurer.  Managing Director seems to show up primarily<br>
&gt; &gt; in investment banks and other financial services entities.  If this<br>
&gt; &gt; person is intended to be at the helm of PTI, we should use the term<br>
&gt; &gt; President.)<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 6.  How will the board handle matters related to this person<br>
&gt; &gt; (compensation, etc.)? If she recuses herself, there will only be 4<br>
&gt; &gt; directors voting.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I look forward to clarification and apologize if this is clear<br>
&gt; &gt; somewhere and I missed it.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Greg<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
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