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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Greg, the role of the CEO in the UK corporate hierarchy is – as the title implies – the head of the executive, or of the team that ensures the effective operation
of the organisation. If that is the role of the President in US terms, then let’s call the post that. But the role it needs to represent on the Board is the operational delivery of the PTI and that the PTI gets the resources it needs to meet this role.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 June 2015 04:19<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> avri; cwg-stewardship@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">After some research, it appears that the use of "Managing Director" in this role and context is distinctly British (and perhaps elsewhere in the Commonwealth); it is distinctly not a US usage
or concept. The Board role of such an MD also seems to dovetail with the two-tier board concept, which is also not US practice (and not part of PTI's governance). While this is perfectly fine, I think we need to align our titles with US usage and job descriptions.
PTI is required by California law to have a President. PTI is not required to have a CEO, and I agree that is out of scale with PTI. Since a President is the chief day-to-day manager (while the CEO may imply more of a strategist/cheerleader role), I think
we should use President (and not Managing Director) to describe and denote the senior-most person at PTI.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>All, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>In this context my understanding is that a Managing Director is the most senior employee AND one that is also a director. Analogous to the CEO. CEO is arguably a rather grand title for a small subsidiary.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Having the MD / CEO in this position doesn't give me a particular concern from a corporate governance perspective. As others have pointed out, this setup is not uncommon.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>The independent directors have a role to play and that was an important point made en route to where we got to.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>However, I feel we need to remind ourselves of our own definition of the limited function / remit of this board. PTI is an ICANN controlled subsidiary and accordingly we need to hold icann accountable for its adequate funding and effective performance.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="color:#888888">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 15 Jun 2015 23:05, "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">In many ways, it would be simpler if PTI did not have the President/CEO/Managing Director person on its Board, and instead had 3 ICANN employees on the PTI Board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">What are the advantages of having this person on the PTI Board?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Gomes, Chuck <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My concern related to the fact that we are dealing with a very small board. Having
a PTI employee on a board of 5 is very different than doing so on a larger board.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Seun Ojedeji<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 15, 2015 5:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> avri<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">RIRs (sure of AFRINIC) does have a voting CEO on it's board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">On 15 Jun 2015 21:20, "Avri Doria" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Hi,<br>
<br>
A clarification, saying ex official means saying it is because of<br>
another role held.<br>
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Do you also mean that this should be a non voting seat?<br>
I think you do, but want to make sure.<br>
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I would note that ICANN has a voting CEO on its Board.<br>
Does ISOC? How about the RIRs?<br>
Just curious.<br>
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avri<br>
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On 15-Jun-15 16:07, James Gannon wrote:<br>
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> Greg,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> With regards to questions 3, 4 and 6:<br>
><br>
> As a matter of good governance practice I would have serious concerns<br>
> about an employee of PTI sitting on the board of PTI with the<br>
> exception of the CEO ex officio.<br>
><br>
> I would appreciate input from others but certainly in Ireland and<br>
> France where I’ve sat on boards it’s would not be considered an<br>
> acceptable practice. And I agree I haven’t seen this issue discussed<br>
> and any advice on best practice given to date.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -James<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *From:*<a href="mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client-bounces@icann.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan<br>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2015 8:15 PM<br>
> *To:* <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>; Client<br>
> *Subject:* [client com] PTI Board Composition: IANA Managing Director<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> All:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> In the course of discussing the composition of the "inside"<br>
> (controlled) PTI Board, I believe we have stated that three seats<br>
> would be appointed by ICANN, with two being unspecified ICANN<br>
> employees and one being the "IANA Managing Director." I've been asked<br>
> to clarify who this IANA Managing Director is (since this title does<br>
> not currently exist). Specifically:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 1. Will the IANA Managing Director be an employee of ICANN or of PTI?<br>
><br>
> 2. Is this intended to be the person in the role currently held by<br>
> Elise Gerich (currently a VP of ICANN for IANA and Technical<br>
> Operations)?<br>
><br>
> 3. If this person is an employee of PTI and not ICANN, does that<br>
> still qualify for purposes of making it an inside board (keeping in<br>
> mind that ICANN does not "own" PTI, and that the only reason this<br>
> person is controlled by ICANN is because ICANN controls PTI (which<br>
> creates a circularity of reasoning))?<br>
><br>
> 4. Can this person be an employee of ICANN _and_ PTI (at least so<br>
> that question 3 is resolved)?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Some next level questions:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 5. Why are we calling this person a "Managing Director," which is not<br>
> commonly used in US non-profit corporations to my experience? (The<br>
> typical senior board-appointed offices are President, Vice President,<br>
> Secretary and Treasurer. Managing Director seems to show up primarily<br>
> in investment banks and other financial services entities. If this<br>
> person is intended to be at the helm of PTI, we should use the term<br>
> President.)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 6. How will the board handle matters related to this person<br>
> (compensation, etc.)? If she recuses herself, there will only be 4<br>
> directors voting.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I look forward to clarification and apologize if this is clear<br>
> somewhere and I missed it.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Greg<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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