<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:milton.mueller@pubpolicy.gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton.mueller@pubpolicy.gatech.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Greg Shatan [mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>]
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Monday, August 10, 2015, Mwendwa Kivuva <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</span><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Certainly, if the numbering community are asked to adopt another stance than that in their proposal, the community has to be given a chance to debate and ratify. That is part<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
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And shouldn't the names community have that opportunity now?<span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">MM: The names community has had that opportunity for about six months. And it still does have that opportunity. The problem is that you have failed to convince
even the names community that ICANN should hold the trademarks – there is clearly no consensus on this – and most of us here have expressed a willingness to accept the CRISP proposal. </span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">GS: I don't think anybody has been convinced of anything, yet -- including a willingness to accept (or to give in to) the CRISP proposal.</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">So what Seun called “neutral” simply meant that there is no consensus here
to overcome or substitute for the CRISP proposal, and in the absence of such a consensus proposal it is ok to accede to what the others have already accepted.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">> </span>In any event, that doesn't mean an entire proposal would be sent back for re-approval.<br>
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">MM: No, but a refusal to accept the CRISP proposal and development of another alternative does mean an important part of the proposal would have to be re-approved
by two other communities. And it’s not like we have a consensus alternative for the other communities to consider. So it also means spending another month or two developing an alternative. All this, for a position that seem to be supported by only you.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> </span></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline">GS: </div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Just the emails that have come up in the last few hours have proven your last statement wrong. I suggest that your other "nose-counting" exercises are <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline">o</div>ff-target<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline"> as well</div>.<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline"></div></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span><p></p><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline"></div>
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