<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Jonathan and Lise,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I would like to volunteer to be part of this group.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Gomes, Chuck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I agree with Avri regarding the composition of the 'chair's group'. I think having a few IPR experts in the small group is important.<br>
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Chuck<br>
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Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: CWG/CRISP/IANAPLAN Coordination<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
By chairs' group. i meant one that they were responsible for and were putting together as they thought best. I did not mean it would only contain chairs.<br>
<br>
As for consensus, I hear more and more people saying things like, "while I would prefer ICANN hold on to the IPR and domain names as part of its stewardship role, as long as everything is worked out, I am willing to live with a trust solution since that is what Numbers wants and is what was put in the ICG plan as a default"<br>
<br>
I think if the chairs group works it out and can answer the questions being asked to the satisfaction of the group, we will find consensus.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
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On 11-Aug-15 15:07, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br>
> Hello Avri,<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I look forward to updates on the discussions that will be held in<br>
> the chairs' group.<br>
><br>
><br>
> If its indeed now "chairs' group" then i will add my +1. The<br>
> understanding from the last CWG call was that a "small group" of<br>
> selected person across the operational communities will be formed to<br>
> discuss the TM(the group as i understand it may or may not contain the<br>
> chairs).<br>
><br>
> Overall, without a direction from the CWG i doubt this meeting would<br>
> help the CWG achieve a consensus view on the TM options. I would<br>
> however be glad to see this cross- operational community collaboration<br>
> focus on how to refine the "texts/wordings" that ensure IETF Trust<br>
> operates the TM in a manner acceptable by the operational communities.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Good luck.<br>
><br>
><br>
> +1<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
><br>
> avri<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 11-Aug-15 04:53, Jonathan Robinson wrote:<br>
> > All,<br>
> ><br>
> > Please see below for message received yesterday from Izumi<br>
> Okutani & Nurani Nimpuno (respectively Chair and Vice-Chair of The<br>
> CRISP Team)<br>
> ><br>
> > Jonathan<br>
> ><br>
> > -----<br>
> > Dear Jonathan, Lise and CWG members,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > The CRISP Team have started sharing observations on the legal<br>
> input from Sidely.<br>
> > Once we have completed summarising our obervation, we would like<br>
> to share it with the CWG, together with any general observation on<br>
> IPR on the IANA trademark and <a href="http://iana.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">iana.org</a> <<a href="http://iana.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://iana.org</a>> domain.<br>
> ><br>
> > We acknowledge the suggested way forward discussed at the CWG<br>
> call on Thursday 6 August, which was shared by Jonathan and Lise.<br>
> > We will discuss this suggestion as well and will get back to you<br>
> through Jonathan and Lise if we have any feedback.<br>
> ><br>
> > Izumi Okutani & Nurani Nimpuno<br>
> > Chair, Vice-Chair, The CRISP Team<br>
> > -----<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 2015/08/07 16:27, Jonathan Robinson wrote:<br>
> >> All,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Following up from the latest email in this thread. I am able to<br>
> report that the CWG received its legal input on the IPR on<br>
> Wednesday this week.<br>
> >> In addition, yesterday (Thursday 6th August) , at our scheduled<br>
> CWG meeting, we had the lawyers present the work and we ran a Q&A<br>
> / discussion.<br>
> >> Please do consider listening to the audio recording of the<br>
> meeting and / or reading the transcript as you see fit.<br>
> >><br>
> >> In brief, the outcome was that the CWG requested the following<br>
> of the chairs:<br>
> >><br>
> >> 1. That we reach out to this group and communicate the current<br>
> situation.<br>
> >> 2. That we convene a meeting to discuss and consider the<br>
> options for a way forward as soon as possible.<br>
> >> 3. That we consider forming a small group, suggested to contain<br>
> the group on this email plus possibly some additions (say up to 2<br>
> per proposing group) and including a representative from ICANN.<br>
> >> This small group would seek to reconcile the IPR issue across<br>
> the CWG / CRISP / IANAPLAN and then put this reconciled position<br>
> back to the Names, Numbers & Protocol communities.<br>
> >> My personal opinion is that this should be all completed by the<br>
> close of the ICG public comment period such that we can<br>
> communicate it to the ICG directly.<br>
> >><br>
> >> We have attached the legal input from Sidley Austin and look<br>
> forward to your response as soon as possible, primarily to a<br>
> request to meet to discuss this. Grace will send out a Doodle Poll<br>
> shortly.<br>
> >> Hopefully we can discuss the detail in a meeting once you have<br>
> had a chance to review the input.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best wishes,<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Jonathan & Lise<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
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