<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Maybe what is needed is an abbreviated appeals process designed to work in a more timely manner given the specialized nature of the subject matter.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Dear Alan,<br>
    <br>
    does this mean that some decisions, which considering the IANA
    environment where decisions might need to be taken fast, might end
    up being delayed through two reconsiderations/appeals?<br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<div><div class="h5"><br>
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    <div>On 25/08/2015 06:34, Alan Greenberg
      wrote:<br>
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      BTW, I presume that once we use the Board Reconsideration process,
      *THAT*
      action is subject to an IRP.  Alan<br>
      <br>
      At 24/08/2015 11:12 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:<br>
      <blockquote type="cite">Chuck, during the
        call, you
        mentioned gTLD redelegations. For those, the IRP *IS* available
        since
        that is an ICANN action, not IANA. <br>
        <br>
        Why do we need a full-blown IRP for appealing IANA decisions?  I
        would appreciate a substantive example.<br>
        <br>
        Alan<br>
        <br>
        At 24/08/2015 10:56 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:<br>
        <blockquote type="cite">Alan,<br>
           <br>
          I see no problem with using the Reconsideration Process first
          but I do
          not believe that we should eliminate the IRP possibility
          regardless how
          remote a chance it might be.<br>
           <br>
          Chuck<br>
           <br>
          <b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [
          <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">
            mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf
            Of </b>Alan
          Greenberg<br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 23, 2015 11:45 PM<br>
          <b>To:</b> CWG IANA<br>
          <b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] IANA Appeal Mechanism<br>
           <br>
          On the call the other day, Allan MacGillivray raised the issue
          of a
          mechanism to appeal IANA decisions. I believe that he was
          referring to
          the text in the CWG Proposal Section III &quot;Proposed
          Post-Transition
          Oversight and Accountability&quot;, Paragraph 106, Sub-section 6
          which
          reads:<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <i>Appeal mechanism. An appeal mechanism, for example in the
            form of an
            Independent Review Panel, for issues relating to the IANA
            functions. For
            example, direct customers with non-remediated issues or
            matters referred
            by ccNSO or GNSO after escalation by the CSC will have
            access to an
            Independent Review Panel. The appeal mechanism will not
            cover issues
            relating to ccTLD delegation and re-delegation, which
            mechanism is to be
            developed by the ccTLD community post-transition.<br>
          </i><br>
          I made the case that there would be few and far-between cases
          of IANA
          decisions that could be appealed (with the perhaps sole
          example being a
          decision of IANA that a request from a registry should NOT be
          honoured).
          Perhaps I was correct, but that is rather moot. The CWG did
          specify that
          such an appeal mechanism should be provided, it is now an
          integral part
          of the ICG proposal, and admittedly their could be cases where
          an IANA
          decision was made and not altered despite CSC and other
          interventions.<br>
          <br>
          In my mind, although perhaps the IRP could be modified to
          address the
          need, that would take a lot of work for a situation that may
          never
          happen, and moreover, the IRP is a lengthy process not geared
          to the pace
          of IANA actions or the operational pace of the Internet.<br>
          <br>
          I would suggest that the Board Reconsideration Process would
          be a viable
          appeal mechanism in this case. It should be relatively easy to
          adjust the
          revised bylaws to allow reconsideration of a decision of an
          ICANN
          subsidiary or wholly controlled affiliate and to have the PIT
          bylaws
          allow for ICANN to advise that an IANA decision be modified
          (or whatever
          level of binding resolution we want).<br>
          <br>
          I would suggest that we recommend to the CCWG-Accountability
          to allow for
          a PTI appeal mechanism via the ICANN Board Reconsideration
          process.<br>
          <br>
          Alan</blockquote>
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