<div dir="ltr">Thanks all, for these comments.<div><br>My question was on a very narrow point, around whether the ICANN Board would in fact be *able* to authorise a transfer as part of the escalation process towards a separation.</div><div><br></div><div>I've seen Greg's reply as the nearest to a direct answer on that, which confirms no specific advice on the point but argues it will be possible.</div><div><br></div><div>If that is where it stands, then I can consider myself informed - concerned, but informed.</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div>Jordan</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 September 2015 at 08:00, Christopher Wilkinson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well, Avri, precisely. As I pointed out some time ago, should matters ever reach such a pass that separation would be invoked, then the machinery proposed would not be fit for purpose.<br>
Other measures, external to ICANN, IANA and this Community would have intervened long before.<br>
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Indeed, if all that CWG has achieved, in this respect, is to create some kind of moral hazard hanging over ICANN, then the last eighteen months work has been disproportionate.<br>
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On 01 Sep 2015, at 18:45, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> Look at how long it took for the NTIA to have a rebid. And there is<br>
> nothing in the separation function that prohibits doing a bid at a point<br>
> in the process. In fact it is quite specific about a bid and the<br>
> possibility the the current PTO could bid again.<br>
><br>
> My hope though, is that just the act of getting the machinery cranked<br>
> up, would be enough of a threat to cause ICANN to try to fix any<br>
> problem. But if it didn't, I predict it would take about as long as it<br>
> took the NTIA, with its call for comments on how to do it &c. We also<br>
> have to take into account the reactions and actions from Numbers and<br>
> Protocols at the time of any separation preparation - that would take<br>
> some time. I think the reference solution strikes the balance between<br>
> changing over too easily and not being able to change over at all.<br>
><br>
> avri<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 31-Aug-15 22:17, Mueller, Milton L wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> *From:*<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a><br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Jordan Carter<br>
>><br>
>> I keep coming back to the status quo. At the moment, the USG can<br>
>> reassign the functions. We need to be careful that, given there is a<br>
>> principle of separability, it isn't rendered inoperable by the CWG's<br>
>> proposal through this matter.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Frankly, I think the current proposal comes very close to rendering<br>
>> separability inoperable. While separation is theoretically possible,<br>
>> it suffers from the absence of the basic notion of competitive<br>
>> bidding. As one journalist (Kieren McCarthy) put it, “There are no<br>
>> less than 10 steps that have to go through seven different committees.<br>
>> Two of those committees have to be specially created and the process<br>
>> requires super majority votes from the two main supporting<br>
>> organizations not once but twice.” The process is essentially<br>
>> designed to avoid change and keep it in PTI/ICANN’s hands in all but<br>
>> the most exceptional circumstances – and in most of the exceptional<br>
>> circumstances one could imagine a process this slow and complex would<br>
>> be practically useless. The basic idea of a renewable contract has<br>
>> been buried by a mound of steaming….committees and reviews. The CWG<br>
>> lost sight of the basic question they should have been answering,<br>
>> which is: “how can we keep the contractor honest and the process of<br>
>> RZF editing maximally efficient by making the possibility of the IFO’s<br>
>> replacement real?”<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> My two cents<br>
>><br>
>> --MM<br>
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