<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Seun</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">You misunderstand me and Alan. I don't have time to clarify right now. Will return to this when I can.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Seun Ojedeji <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Well administrative expenses still technically falls within operational cost as they are not revenue neither are they non-IANA related cost (as Greg put it) so I am in agreement with that. </p><span class="im HOEnZb">
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my Asus Zenfone2<br>
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</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 Sep 2015 17:31, "Alan Greenberg" <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>There will be PTI overhead administrative expenses that might not technically be considered IANA, but other than that, they should be the same.<br>
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Alan <br>
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Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On September 13, 2015 11:12:43 AM EDT, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Hi Greg,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Based on what you've written below it seem to imply there is difference between IANA budget and PTI budget. This will definitely make it no longer a small matter (as Chuck puts it).<br>
If you say PTI/IANA budget include IANA revenue then you are simply referring to ICANN revenue. Does IANA generate revenue other than following instruction?</p>
<p dir="ltr">It's like saying because a technical department of an organisation is the actual implementer of service then the organisation revenue generation be accrued to it. I am not an accountant, but my technical reasoning don't think it's logically correct. I think the best that can be presented under IANA/PTI is operating budget.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
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Kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 13 Sep 2015 15:54, "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It was my understanding that the IANA budget would also embrace IANA-related expenses (and revenues?) that were not incurred (received?) by PTI.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Gomes, Chuck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Jonathan,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Like I said, it is not a big deal. It just seemed to me that the IANA budget and PTI budget are essentially the same thing under our proposal so I was just curious as to why the edit was made.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Chuck<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Jonathan Robinson [mailto:<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 12, 2015 9:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Thomas Rickert'</span></p><div><div><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [client com] CWG Comment Letter<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">Chuck,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">I am not sure I recall the motivation (if it was discussed at all) for this change. The way I read it, is that the IANA Budget review is by definition also or in effect a PTI budget review and therefore
it’s not necessary to say both.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">I suggest we submit the comment as currently drafted and then, if for any reason we wish to re-introduce this “/PTI budget” component, we submit it as a minor revision.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">Jonathan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gomes, Chuck [<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">mailto:cgomes@verisign.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2015 17:30<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [client com] CWG Comment Letter<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="color:#1f497d">I like the edits made and thank Sidley for doing this. I do have one minor question: under item 1, why was PTI deleted in this sentence: “</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black">It
is anticipated that the IANA</span><s><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red">/PTI budget</span></s><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:red">
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:blue">Budget
</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black">review will include a<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black">consultation process with IANA customers.</span><span style="color:#1f497d">”? Like I said, this is not a big issue.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Chuck<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2015 7:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Thomas Rickert<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [client com] CWG Comment Letter<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">Please see attached from Sidley. This addresses the feedback and discussion from the CWG call yesterday.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">Lise and I have discussed this version and we are satisfied that we can submit this to the CCWG public comment as is.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">However, as discussed yesterday, we will wait 24 hours (until 12h00 UTC, Saturday 12 September) before doing so.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">If you do have additional comment or input, please do provide ASAP, ideally by 23h59 UTC today (Friday 11 Sep) and, in any event, no later than 12h00 UTC tomorrow (12 Sep).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">Thank-you,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">Jonathan & Lise<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 11 September 2015 04:02<br>
<b>To:</b> Client Committee <<a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [client com] CWG Comment Letter<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear Client Committee,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Attached is a revised draft of the comment letter which reflects the discussion today, along with a few clean up edits. We’ve attached a clean copy and a redline against the Tuesday draft.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Holly and Sharon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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