<p dir="ltr">Hmm, I don&#39;t think saying &quot;veto on PTI&quot; budget and saying &quot;veto on ICANN budget&quot; are the same thing. However I note that the CWG in her statement to CCWG second PC acknowledges that the ability to veto ICANN and IANA Budgets separately meets her requirement, and I expect that the IANA budget is most important and within scope for CWG than ICANN budget.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards<br>
Sent from my Asus Zenfone2<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
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    Hi<br>
    <br>
    Well in one sense they are the same thing - the PTI budget will be a
    part of the larger ICANN budget and therefore having certainty w/r/t
    budget allocated by ICANN to PTI and IFO operations is crucial.<br>
    <br>
    Matthew<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 25/09/2015 17:11, Jonathan Robinson
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks
            Seun,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Any
            other view on this?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Notwithstanding
            the views, a key point for me is that we ended up where we
            did, then put it to public comment, then put it to the
            chartering organisations.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Therefore,
            it seems to me that (assuming we wanted to) it would be
            challenging to unwind a requirement such as this one at this
            stage. At least in a timely way.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jonathan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> Seun Ojedeji [<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>] <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> 24 September 2015 15:43<br>
            <b>To:</b> Jonathan Robinson <a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">&lt;jrobinson@afilias.info&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Legal work for CCWG
            Accountability on Board Proposals versus CCWG Proposals<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p>Thanks Jonathan, reading through the CWG dependency I was
          really wondering whether it was appropriate for us to have
          required a veto on ICANN budget instead of that of the
          PTI/IANA because I think they are 2 different things.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p>Perhaps our choice of words like approval/veto is a concern
          as well.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p>Regards<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p>Sent from my Asus Zenfone2<br>
          Kindly excuse brevity and typos.<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">All,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">You may find the attached to be
                  useful background reading in relation to the CWGs
                  consideration of its dependencies on the CCWG work.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Thank-you.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Jonathan</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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