<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'll address this question to Izumi, since I believe she is on this list.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In trying to understand these "requirements" it is unclear what the following requirement means:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><div dir="auto"><blockquote type="cite"><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> - Will ensure that these assets are used in a non-discriminatory manner for the benefit of the entire Internet community.</span></font></pre></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It would be very helpful if you could can explain this requirement in some more detail. For instance, what uses of assets are you thinking of? What is use in a non-discriminatory manner vs. use in a discriminatory manner? How would these uses benefit the entire Internet community? How could these uses not benefit the entire Internet community?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Also, I would like to understand your thinking in characterizing the IETF Trust as "neutral," when it is controlled by the IETF and has the IETF as its sole beneficiary.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Alissa Cooper <span dir="ltr"><<a>alissa@cooperw.in</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">FYI<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">Izumi_Okutani <<a>izumiokutani@yahoo.co.jp</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>[Ianaplan] Fwd: IANA Intellectual Property Rights: Minimum Requirements</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">October 16, 2015 at 5:06:15 PM GMT+1<br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">"<a>ianaplan@ietf.org</a>" <<a>ianaplan@ietf.org</a>><br></span></div><br><div><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div>Dear IANAPLAN WG,<br><br></div><div><br></div><div>For your information, we would like to share the minimum IPR requirements the CRISP Team has developed from the numbers community perspective, and based on these principles, support for the approach introduced on the IANAPLAN.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Regards, </span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Izumi Okutani and Nurani Nimpuno on behalf of the CRISP Team </span></font></pre></div><div><br></div><div>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><b>差出人:</b> Izumi_Okutani <<a>izumiokutani@yahoo.co.jp</a>><br><b>日時:</b> 2015年10月16日 16:11:31 GMT+1<br><b>宛先:</b> "<a>ianaxfer@nro.net</a>" <<a>ianaxfer@nro.net</a>><br><b>件名:</b> <b>IANA Intellectual Property Rights: Minimum Requirements </b><br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Dear all, </span><div><br><pre><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-family:UICTFontTextStyleBody">The CRISP Team would like to share the minimum requirements we have developed on the IANA Intellectual Property Rights.
They will serve to highlight the key points from the number community perspective in coordination among the operational communities to prepare for the IPR implementation. </span></pre><pre><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-family:UICTFontTextStyleBody">Further, we note that the IETF community has shared an approach for implementation of the IPR on the IANAPLAN mailing list: </span><a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ianaplan/gbPZgVdXAKIQKJRM1po6Nbod-6w" style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-family:UICTFontTextStyleBody" target="_blank">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ianaplan/gbPZgVdXAKIQKJRM1po6Nbod-6w</a><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-family:UICTFontTextStyleBody"> </span></pre><pre><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-family:UICTFontTextStyleBody">Based on an understanding that details of the text of the agreements are to be further considered with coordination among the three operational communities, the CRISP Team observes no inconsistencies between the approach introduced in the IANAPLAN and the minimum IPR requirements for the numbers community. We support this approach and open to discuss further details in how we prepare its implementation.</span></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> ===
IANA Intellectual Property Rights: Minimum Requirements </span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">This document outlines the Internet Number Community’s minimum requirements regarding IANA Intellectual Property Rights (IPR), as expressed in the Number Community proposal.
It is the view of the CRISP Team that these requirements must be implemented as part of the transition. </span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Minimum Requirements Regarding the IANA Trademark and <a href="http://iana.org/" target="_blank">IANA.ORG</a> <<a href="http://iana.org/" target="_blank">http://iana.org/</a>> </span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">The IANA trademark and the <a href="http://iana.org/" target="_blank">IANA.ORG</a> <<a href="http://iana.org/" target="_blank">http://iana.org/</a>> domain name will be associated with the IANA numbering services and not with a particular IANA Numbering Services Operator.
The IANA trademark and the <a href="http://iana.org/" target="_blank">IANA.ORG</a> <<a href="http://iana.org/" target="_blank">http://iana.org/</a>> domain will be transferred and permanently held by an organisation that:</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> - Is not the IANA Numbering Services Operator</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> - Is an entity independent of the IANA Numbering Services Operator</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> - Is neutral, trusted by the community of IANA stakeholders and has a proven track record of competence and transparency</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> - Will facilitate a smooth transition of licenses and permissions should another operator (or operators) be selected in the future</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> - Will ensure that these assets are used in a non-discriminatory manner for the benefit of the entire Internet community.</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">From the Internet Number Community 's perspective, the IETF Trust would be an acceptable candidate for this role based on the minimum requirements described above.</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><i></i>Minimum Requirements Regarding the IPR Status of Registries Related to the Performance of the IANA Numbering Services</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">The IPR status of registries related to the performance of IANA numbering services must ensure free and unrestricted access to the public registry data throughout the stewardship transition and beyond.
In particular:</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> - The IANA Number Registries must be in the public domain</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> - Non-public information related to the IANA number resource registries and corresponding services, including the provision of reverse DNS delegation in IN-ADDR.ARPA and IP6.ARPA, is managed by the IANA operator and will be transferred to its successor(s)</span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> - All rights to non-public information related to the IANA number resource registries and corresponding services must be transferred to the RIRs </span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> == end </span></font></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></pre><pre><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-family:UICTFontTextStyleBody">Regards, </span></pre><pre><font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="white-space:normal;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Izumi Okutani and Nurani Nimpuno on behalf of the CRISP Team
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