<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Milton,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Why do you say "IANA as a concept now belongs to the IETF"? When and how do you believe this happened?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Christopher Wilkinson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Well, Milton: That 'structure' has become so complex, as you describe it, that I think it is unsaleable to the global community. <div>As has been observed more than once, at an earlier stage in this matter, PTI is unnecessary in the absence of separation, which many of us do not anticipate under any circumstances.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>CW</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 17 Dec 2015, at 00:29, "Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">But that is precisely my point, Christopher. PTI is not the IANA, nor is ICANN. PTI is the IANA functions operator; each OC decides who their IFO is. IANA as a concept now belongs to the IETF, and we are removing ownership of the IANA trademarks and domains from ICANN, and from any particular IFO, including PTI.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">One reason I am insisting on label accuracy is that there are people who still don’t understand the nature of the structural reform we are enacting. Accurate labeling helps to convey the change.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">--MM<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><a name="151ad42671d51791__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span></a></div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1.5pt;border-left-color:blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span>Christopher Wilkinson [mailto:<a href="mailto:lists@" target="_blank">lists@</a><a href="http://christopherwilkinson.eu" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">christopherwilkinson.eu</a>]<span> </span><br><br></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">IANA has been maintained as a label for more than a decade, the creation of ICANN notwithstanding.<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">The IANA label will no doubt survive long-time, PTI notwithstanding. IANA is more important in the public mind.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">CW<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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