<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Becky,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">That is my impression as well.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Burr, Becky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>My impression based on the various posts is that we need both a general provision regarding ICANN’s obligation to cause the PTI to fulfill its obligations (the failure to do so would give rise to a standard IRP) and we need something to address SLA failures,
etc. with a operational (rather than constitutional) standard of review.</div><span class="">
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, January 25, 2016 at 3:22 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] CCWG-ACCT Request for Guidance on PTI - IRP - Please respond by 23h59 UTC Monday 25 January 2016<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Becky,</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">have we specified that there should be such a provision in the Bylaws?</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I guess we have left to "implementation" the agreement between ICANN and PTI. I don't believe this has been picked up yet. Am I correct? If so, that should probably change soon.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Burr, Becky <span dir="ltr">
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Presumably if ICANN has an obligation in its Bylaws to ensure that PTI<br>
does the right thing, it will need to create the necessary enforcement<br>
mechanisms in its relationship with PTI.<br>
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On 1/25/16, 10:30 AM, "Avri Doria" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>Another nagging question I have, and one I think people tell me I am<br>
>wrong about becase of MOUs and contracts.<br>
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>In the PTI environment, given that ICANN remains the representative for<br>
>2 of the operational communities, and they resolve their IANA issues<br>
>with ICANN based on contracts and MOUs, how do we expect ICANN to get<br>
>what it needs from IANA on their behalf?<br>
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>Will, as today. they just tell IANA what to do and that will be the end<br>
>of it.<br>
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>The other OCs have indicated that any appeals mechanisms we create are<br>
>irrelevant to their case - they have their own methods. But these<br>
>methods involve ICANN and not PTI. Does ICANN need to appeal on their<br>
>behalf? How does it do this?<br>
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>avri<br>
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