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This is an interesting question. Para 107 says: <i>This final
proposal attempts to meet all of the above requirements by:</i><i>
... </i><i> Establishing a contract between PTI and ICANN that
will grant PTI the rights to act as the IFO, and set out the
rights and obligations of PTI and ICANN</i><b><br>
</b><br>
Could/should the concerns raised by Becky and Greg be addressed in
the "rights and obligations" part of the contract outlined above,
and if so does the Draft Proposed Term Sheet in Annex S adequately
account for the concerns raised in this thread? (My cursory read
suggests that it does not.) <br>
<br>
Matthew<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/01/2016 04:17, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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as well.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Burr,
Becky <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>My impression based on the various posts is that
we need both a general provision regarding ICANN’s
obligation to cause the PTI to fulfill its
obligations (the failure to do so would give rise to
a standard IRP) and we need something to address SLA
failures, etc. with a operational (rather than
constitutional) standard of review.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:9pt;line-height:115%">J.
Beckwith Burr</span></b><b><span
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</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;line-height:115%;color:#008656">Neustar,
Inc.</span></b><b><span
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style="font-size:9.0pt;line-height:115%;color:#7d7d7d">/</span><b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;line-height:115%;color:#068658"> </span></b><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;line-height:115%;color:#7d7d7d">Deputy General
Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer<br>
1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C.
20006</span><span
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</span><b><span
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style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Greg Shatan
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday,
January 25, 2016 at 3:22 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Becky Burr
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:avri@acm.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a></a>" <<a
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href="mailto:avri@acm.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a></a>>, "<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[CWG-Stewardship] CCWG-ACCT Request for Guidance on
PTI - IRP - Please respond by 23h59 UTC Monday 25
January 2016<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">have
we specified that there should be such a
provision in the Bylaws?</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I
guess we have left to "implementation" the
agreement between ICANN and PTI. I don't
believe this has been picked up yet. Am I
correct? If so, that should probably change
soon.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016
at 10:45 AM, Burr, Becky <span dir="ltr">
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz"
target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Presumably
if ICANN has an obligation in its Bylaws
to ensure that PTI<br>
does the right thing, it will need to
create the necessary enforcement<br>
mechanisms in its relationship with PTI.<br>
<span><br>
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J. Beckwith Burr<br>
Neustar, Inc. / Deputy<br>
General Counsel & Chief Privacy
Officer<br>
1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington
D.C. 20006<br>
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On 1/25/16, 10:30 AM, "Avri Doria" <<a
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wrote:<br>
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>Hi,<br>
><br>
>Another nagging question I have, and
one I think people tell me I am<br>
>wrong about becase of MOUs and
contracts.<br>
><br>
>In the PTI environment, given that
ICANN remains the representative for<br>
>2 of the operational communities,
and they resolve their IANA issues<br>
>with ICANN based on contracts and
MOUs, how do we expect ICANN to get<br>
>what it needs from IANA on their
behalf?<br>
><br>
>Will, as today. they just tell IANA
what to do and that will be the end<br>
>of it.<br>
><br>
>The other OCs have indicated that
any appeals mechanisms we create are<br>
>irrelevant to their case - they have
their own methods. But these<br>
>methods involve ICANN and not PTI.
Does ICANN need to appeal on their<br>
>behalf? How does it do this?<br>
><br>
>avri<br>
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