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+ 1 CSC has to be seen in the broader structure associated with PTI
in which CSC has a very specific function per Donna's points below.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/02/2016 22:16, James Gannon
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<div>I would support Donnas position here, the CSC was
carefully crafted and the work of the CWG is closed on that
point now I believe. To introduce changes along these lines
would be a fundamental change in the CSC’s lifecycle
structure and that would be reopening a closed and agreed
item.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday 2
February 2016 at 11:45 p.m.<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Seun Ojedeji <<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[CWG-Stewardship] Update & Planning for Feb 4th Meeting of
CWG<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Seun<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As
the lead of the DT for the CSC, I’ve responded to your
related questions inline below.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
would also welcome input from Martin who was also a
member of the DT for the CSC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Donna<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Seun Ojedeji<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 2 February 2016 11:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Robinson <<a
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<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Update &
Planning for Feb 4th Meeting of CWG<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks for the share, did a quick read and have a few
general comments/question:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->Isn't there a way
to have the CSC charter separate and not incorporated
into the bylaw as the bylaw is looking quite bulky. That
said, I note that it's referred to as Annex D so I
assume that is perhaps the only reference that would
exist in the bylaw?<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">DA
COMMENT: I believe this is up for discussion of CWG
members. While I think that it makes sense to have the
existence of the CSC contained in the bylaws, the
charter itself could simply be referenced,
particularly given it is envisioned that the Charter
would be reviewed on a somewhat regular basis.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font-style:
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
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'Times New Roman';">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->I believe any change in
the CSC charter should involved other chartering SO/AC
not just be based on the ccNSO and GNSO decision.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">DA
COMMENT: The mission of the CSC is to ensure continued
satisfactory performance of the IANA Function for the
direct customers of the naming services. The primary
role of the CSC is to monitor the performance of the
IANA naming function against agreed service level
targets on a regular basis. It was the view of the DT
that as the direct customers of the naming services
came from the ccNSO and GNSO, that any changes to the
Charter should only be ratified by those SOs. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
Charter does provide for input from all ICANN
stakeholders through the provision of a public comment
period associated with an initial review of the
Charter to be conducted by representatives of the
ccNSO and RySG after one year of the first meeting of
the CSC. Any recommended changes are to be ratified by
the ccNSO and GNSO.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
Charter also provides that “… thereafter, the Charter
will be reviewed at the request of the CSC, ccNSO or
GNSO and may also be reviewed in connection with the
IANA Function Review.” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
Charter is currently silent on how any future reviews
should be conducted and it may make sense that any
review requested by the CSC, ccNSO or GNSO follow the
same form as the initial review in that it be
conducted by representatives of the ccNSO and RySG and
that the “… review is to include the opportunity for
input from other ICANN stakeholders, via a Public
Comment process.”
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
believe that any review of the CSC Charter conducted
in connection with the IANA Function Review has a
separate process.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font-style:
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family:
'Times New Roman';">
</span></span><!--[endif]-->The CCWG proposed process
to approve update of any text in the bylaw (including
CSC charter) should be applied. So I think the charter
update(depending on whether this will be standard or
fundamental bylaw) should be subject to board approval.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">DA
comment: The DT did not believe that Board approval
was required for a change to the CSC Charter and I do
not support any suggestion that this be changed at
this time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>4. Some of the decision making does not recognise other
community like ALAC as part of the decision makers. For
instance the decision process for SCWG.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>5. Could it be indicated which of the texts goes to
fundamental bylaw and which one to standard?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2 Feb 2016 6:21 p.m., "Jonathan
Robinson" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE">A couple of updates since our
previous meeting and ahead of our meeting on
Thursday Feb 4 @ 16h00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE">We are waiting for the final
wording from CWG Accountability in relation to
our requirements on IANA Budget and IRP but
now expect that these will be satisfactorily
dealt with.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE">As per Grace’s note on the CCWG
agenda for their meeting today, these matters
were subject to “final reading” by the CCWG
today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE">On the series of questions
presented by Sidley in preparation for
drafting the proposed ICANN Bylaws to deal
with the work of the CWG Stewardship, Grace’s
email of Jan 25 sought further input from our
group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE">Essentially we have:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-IE">a.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-IE"> </span>
<span lang="EN-IE">Input from relevant DT leads
(Thank-you!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-IE">b.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-IE"> </span>
<span lang="EN-IE">Input from staff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-IE">c.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt" lang="EN-IE"> </span>
<span lang="EN-IE">Remaining open questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE">Any input to point c above will
be helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE">The plan (as per our last meeting
and captured in Grace’s email of Jan 25)
</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE">was to review and provide input
so that responses can be provided to Sidley
after the Feb 4 Call.</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE">This work to be done via the
mailing list by using the ‘track changes’
feature in Word. Staff will monitor the list
and manage version control if needed. </span><span
lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE">If there are outstanding issues,
or disagreement on a response, this can be
discussed further at the next meeting. </span><span
lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><u><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:red"
lang="EN-IE">If you are able to review the
document (re-attached for convenience) and
provide any input over the next 24 hours or
so, that will be very helpful.</span></u><span
lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE">Thank-you,</span><span
lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE">Jonathan & Lise</span><span
lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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