<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">So Jones Day is on the inside leg and maybe that is not all good. Yes, we know they are responsible for the legal environment of ICANN, the corporation; told y&#39;all a long time ago it is a lot more useful to focus on Jones Day analysis of transition than any other.  Let&#39;s get real. A director of an American corporation would be dumber than a small pet rock to deal with all these matters absent counsel they know. And more important, they can consistently trust.  It is what it is.  You play the hand you get.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Second, it is not the legal jockey&#39;s fault that we ask them to answer political - as opposed to legal - questions. Said it before. If I had my shingle hung and got in on this deal, know well I would bill every red cent my time affords.  We got off light, IMHO.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Turn up for a gunfight with a knife and it serves you right to get shot between the eyes at 300 feet.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><br>==============================<br>Carlton A Samuels<br>Mobile: <a href="tel:876-818-1799" value="+18768181799" target="_blank">876-818-1799</a><br><i><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment &amp; Turnaround</font></i><br>=============================</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Phil Corwin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com" target="_blank">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I have heard many long-time members of the ICANN community opine that Jones Day, in coordination with the General Counsel (who is a former Jones Day attorney), wields decisive behind-the-scenes power within ICANN.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">The issue is not cost, or quality of the legal work, but a persistent mindset regarding the interplay between the Corporation and the Community.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 01, 2016 9:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Xavier J. Calvez; <a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:community-finance@icann.org" target="_blank">community-finance@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>; <a href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org" target="_blank">icann-board@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:global_leadership@icann.org" target="_blank">global_leadership@icann.org</a>; Senior Management Team<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks for sharing this information. It’s useful, though I suspect it’ll raise as many questions as it answers.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">One thing I did notice was in relation to the legal fees. Doing some back of the envelope calculations and noting how much ICANN generally spends on legal fees one question did come to mind, and
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Has ICANN ever changed law firms? As far as I can tell Jones Day has been doing ICANN’s legal work since ICANN’s formation <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">While I know that people can argue that legal advice is not purely a numbers game, I’m also pretty sure that there are other law firms out that that would provide a similar service and potentially
 at a lower price. And my comments are no reflection on the quality of Jones Day’s work, but considering how much ICANN pays is legal fees per year I think it’s a question someone should ask.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">Mr Michele Neylon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">&lt;<a href="mailto:community-finance-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">community-finance-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of &quot;<a href="mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org" target="_blank">xavier.calvez@icann.org</a>&quot;
 &lt;<a href="mailto:xavier.calvez@icann.org" target="_blank">xavier.calvez@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday 1 March 2016 at 07:13<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href="mailto:community-finance@icann.org" target="_blank">community-finance@icann.org</a>&quot;
 &lt;<a href="mailto:community-finance@icann.org" target="_blank">community-finance@icann.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href="mailto:icann-board@icann.org" target="_blank">icann-board@icann.org</a>&quot;
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<b>Cc: </b>Senior Management Team &lt;<a href="mailto:senior-management-team@icann.org" target="_blank">senior-management-team@icann.org</a>&gt;, Global Leadership &lt;<a href="mailto:global_leadership@icann.org" target="_blank">global_leadership@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[community-finance] Updated IANA Stewardship Transition Expenses Information as of 31 December 2015</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Please find below a link to the quarterly update as of 31 December 2015 of the IANA Stewardship transition projects expenses. This update provides for the project’s costs from 1 July 2014 until
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