I agree as well.<div><br></div><div>Greg<span></span><br><br>On Tuesday, April 12, 2016, Matthew Shears &lt;<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Subject to Avri&#39;s thoughts (as she knows the ATRT well) I would
    think that using a tried and tested approach would make sense.<br>
    <br>
    Matthew<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 4/12/2016 9:22 AM, Gomes, Chuck
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I will defer to
            Avri and Matthew on this but I do want to say that I like
            the idea of doing what is done for the ATRT to the extent
            that that is possible.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Chuck<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org&#39;);" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
                [<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org&#39;);" target="_blank">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:40 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;cwg-stewardship@icann.org&#39;);" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [client com] IFRT
                Reports and Permitted Redactions<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE">All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE">Please
            can you (especially Avri &amp; Matthew) pay attention to the
            request below from Sharon.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE">Thank-you.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE">Jonathan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Flanagan, Sharon [<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;sflanagan@sidley.com&#39;);" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;sflanagan@sidley.com&#39;);" target="_blank">mailto:sflanagan@sidley.com</a>]
              <br>
              <b>Sent:</b> 12 April 2016 02:28<br>
              <b>To:</b> Client Committee &lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;cwg-client@icann.org&#39;);" target="_blank">cwg-client@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [client com] IFRT Reports and Permitted
              Redactions<u></u><u></u></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Dear All,<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">The current draft ICANN bylaws (Section
          18.4(a)) includes below relating to the reports that PTI will
          deliver to the IFRT:
          <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:0in"><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;background:yellow">Reports
            provided by PTI pursuant to the IANA Naming Function
            Contract and/or IANA Naming Function SOW during the IFR
            period being reviewed, any portion of which may be redacted
            (i) that reflects privileged advice from legal counsel; (ii)
            includes PTI or ICANN trade secrets; (iii) where disclosure
            to the IFRT would otherwise constitute a breach by PTI or
            ICANN of a binding contractual obligation or legal
            requirement to which PTI or ICANN is subject; or (iv) if
            disclosed would present a material risk of negative impact
            on the security, stability or resiliency of the DNS;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">The comment noted in the CWG response
          circulated on 9 April 2016 was as follows: 
          <u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black;background:yellow">Has
            the same redaction problem we find in other reviews.  This
            should be treated in the same way as confidential
            information is treated in ATRT, i.e. signature of NDA (ref
            Confidential Disclosure to Review Teams <a href="http://4.6.a.vi" target="_blank">4.6.a.vi</a>).  May need
            to refer to EC right of inspection as appeal mechanism if
            NDA is not a possible solution.</span><span style="color:black">
            <u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">For reference
            Section 4.6(a)(vi) provides as follows:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p style="margin-left:1.75in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">(i)</span><span>   
          </span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Confidential
            Disclosure to Review Teams:
            <u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p style="margin-left:1.75in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">(A)</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 
            To facilitate transparency and openness regarding ICANN’s
            deliberations and operations, the Review Teams, or a subset
            thereof, shall have access to ICANN internal information and
            documents pursuant to the Confidential Disclosure Framework
            set forth in the Operating Standards.  The Confidential
            Disclosure Framework must be aligned with the following
            guidelines:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p style="margin-left:3.0in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">(1)</span><span>           
          </span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ICANN
            must provide a justification for any refusal to reveal
            requested information.  ICANN’s refusal can be appealed to
            the Ombudsman and/or the ICANN Board for a ruling on the
            disclosure request.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p style="margin-left:3.0in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">(2)</span><span>           
          </span><span style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ICANN
            may designate certain documents and information as “for
            review team members only” or for a subset of the review team
            members based on conflict of interest.  ICANN’s designation
            of documents may also be appealed to the Ombudsman and/or
            the ICANN Board.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:.5in">ICANN
          may require review team members to sign a non-disclosure
          agreement before accessing documents.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Can CWG please clarify what process is
          being requested for redactions on reports provided to PTI?  Is
          the suggestion that 4.6(a)(vi) above replace what is currently
          in 18.4(a))?  If so, we understand that the Confidential
          Disclosure Framework may not be final yet.  Has CWG seen
          drafts and is it comfortable with this process?<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Please let us know so that we can mark-up
          the ICANN draft bylaws accordingly.  This is a point on which
          the CWG proposal is silent so there isn’t guidance contained
          within the proposal.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Sharon<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">SHARON
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