<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hello Greg,<br><br></div>I am not proposing removal of that AOI i am saying if "purpose and role" is not defined/clear then we should remove it. However based on your response (re: purpose) which i hope is a legal fact about where purpose is defined(i am not a lawyer so won't doubt on that), I will then say having it read as <b>"purpose and mission set forth in ICANN’s Articles and Bylaws"</b> will be more appropriate which is still different from your option 1.<br><br></div>Regards<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Seun,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't understand your argument. Can you clarify what you are arguing and what result you are proposing. If you are proposing removing the reference to the Articles of Incorporation (which define ICANN's "purpose"), please explain why that should be changed from the CWG's final report.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>Thanks!</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Seun Ojedeji <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Dear Co-Chairs,<br><br></div>In the absence of any justification/clarification provided from Greg in relation to my argument. Then i like to formerly note my disagreement with what Greg suggested and maintain that <span lang="EN-US">"Mission of ICANN as set forth in the Bylaws" is more appropriate; we cannot afford to be introducing unnecessary ambiguities in the bylaw.<br><br></span></div><span lang="EN-US">Regards<br></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Seun Ojedeji <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hello Jonathan/all,<br><br></div>I actually think what is proposed by the lawyers is somewhat neater and straightforward, will be good to know specifically why Greg thinks the intent/scope of that section could exceed <span lang="EN-US">"Mission of ICANN as set forth in the Bylaws" hence should be covered by "</span><span lang="EN-US"><span style="background:yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%">purpose, mission and role set forth in ICANN’s Articles and Bylaws..."<br><br></span></span></div><div><span lang="EN-US"><span style="background:yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)"><span></span><span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">It may be good to know what defines ICANN purpose and role aside those included in the Articles and Bylaws</span></span></span>.<br><br></span></span></div><div><span lang="EN-US"><span style="background:yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Regards</span><br></span></span></div><span lang="EN-US"><span style="background:yellow none repeat scroll 0% 0%"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span></span></span></span></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Jonathan Robinson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-IE"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">All,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Please see below from the Sharon @ Sidley.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">We have discussed this on the client committee and our view is that the highlighted wording is adequate i.e. use the option 1 provided by Greg.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Please let us know if you disagree, mindful that time is tight on all of this.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">For ease of use, I have copied the client committee dialogue below.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Thank-you<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Lise & Jonathan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">--<u></u><u></u></span></p><span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">I tend to agree with Greg that as the sentence ends with ‘or other matters of concern to the community’ it is not an issue to use the text as is in the proposal including ‘ purpose’ and ‘role’ although these are not (formally) defined. I therefore support his alternative 1.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><<a href="mailto:cwg-client-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Saturday 16 April 2016 at 18:33<br><b>To: </b>Sharon Flanagan <<a href="mailto:sflanagan@sidley.com" target="_blank">sflanagan@sidley.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [client com] Input requested regarding Paragraph 106 of CWG Proposal<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Since this is an open ended list (ending with "or other matters of concern to the community."), i don't think there's a big issue with including "purpose" and "role". However, I do think these terms are different in nature from the defined Mission, and from each other. Purpose can be traced back to, and is essentially defined in Article 2 of the ICANN Articles of Incorporation; as such, it is similar to Mission in specificity. Role on the other hand is completely ambiguous and undefined.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Alternatives may be:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">1. Leave as is -- ambiguity and all (but to my mind only "role" is ambiguous).</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">2. Move role elsewhere in the list, without reference to the Articles and Bylaws -- however, this makes it even more ambiguous (as currently drafted, it's at least clear that the "role" needs to be derived from the Articles and Bylaws in some fashion.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">3. Eliminate "role" entirely -- but we then run the risk of losing a point that was being made by the CWG, since Role has a different connotation than Mission or Purpose, and has more to do with how the Mission and Purpose are carried out.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Greg</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></span><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Flanagan, Sharon [mailto:<a href="mailto:sflanagan@sidley.com" target="_blank">sflanagan@sidley.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 16 April 2016 02:29<br><b>To:</b> Client Committee <<a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [client com] Input requested regarding Paragraph 106 of CWG Proposal<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear All,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">There is language in the CWG proposal at paragraph 106 regarding budget approvals that refers to: “The community may reject the ICANN Budget based on perceived inconsistency with the <span style="background:yellow">purpose, mission and role set forth in ICANN’s Articles and Bylaws</span>, the global public interest, the needs of ICANN stakeholders, financial stability or other matters of concern to the community.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We’re requesting confirmation that the Mission of ICANN as set forth in the Bylaws is synonymous with the “purpose, mission and role” of ICANN as set forth in ICANN’s Articles and Bylaws for purposes of the CWG proposal. The concern is that “purpose” and “role” are otherwise ambiguous and not defined, whereas the Mission is carefully articulated.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Sharon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">SHARON R. 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