<div dir="ltr"><div>Hello,<br><br></div><div>I agree most part of the 3 key points listed by Mathieu expect that on the last point; i don&#39;t think new staff specifically recruited for PTI must necessarily have same benefit as other staff; theirs may be more or less, what may be important is for them to be aware of the benefits before applying and finally being employed. IMO ensuring that current/existing staff that get seconded from ICANN to PTI receives their present benefits is what is most important.<br><br></div><div>Regards<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Mathieu Weill <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" target="_blank">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="FR"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Hi everyone, <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">I also am very keen to discuss on the basis of Greg’s comments. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Like many ccTLDs, Afnic was created as a separate entity separated from a larger, well known Academic institution. The retention challenge was certainly even higher at that point because there was no guarantee on funding or even on the viability of the domain business at that point. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">From that experience, I can share some potential ideas for consideration to balance retention and independence, both in the short and long term for icann :<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">          </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Ensuring that benefits, career perspectives and all other aspects of Icann HR policies remain accessible to PTI employees should be starting point. I’m sure lawyers can find a way to address this requirement. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">          </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Secondment could be used for existing Icann employees, for a duration of 3 year maximum, in order to provide continuity <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">          </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">New hires could be directly employed by PTI (with the same benefits as other staff) so that, over time, a smooth transition can be achieved. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">I am confident that an adequate balance can be found, adequately addressing the CWG requirements as well as legitimate staff expectations. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Best<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Mathieu<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>De la part de</b> <a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com" target="_blank">kurt@kjpritz.com</a><br><b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 16 juin 2016 06:15<br><b>À :</b> Greg Shatan; Jonathan Robinson<br><b>Cc :</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Everyone: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I thought that Greg&#39;s comments to the ICANN Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations merited a response focusing some operational aspects of the plan. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">To make it easier to read, I pasted Greg&#39;s comments into the document itself in italics and then followed those comments with my own.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks for taking the time to read these. i hope they are helpful to your thinking.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Kurt<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #c2c2c2 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 2.0pt;margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">--------- Original Message --------- <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<br>From: &quot;Greg Shatan&quot; &lt;</span><a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt;<br>Date: 6/13/16 1:10 pm<br>To: &quot;Jonathan Robinson&quot; &lt;</span><a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">jrobinson@afilias.info</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt;<br>Cc: &quot;</span><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&quot; &lt;</span><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US">All, <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US">My thoughts on the rationale explanation are on the attached document as marginal comments.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US">Greg Shatan<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Jonathan Robinson &lt;</span><a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">jrobinson@afilias.info</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE">All,</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE">FYI. </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE">Please note We did not have an IOTF call today so have not yet had the opportunity to discuss this item.</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE">Jonathan</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-IE"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></strong><span lang="EN-US"> Yuko Green [mailto:</span><a href="mailto:yuko.green@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">yuko.green@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">] <br><strong>Sent:</strong> 10 June 2016 18:05<br><strong>To:</strong> </span><a href="mailto:iotf@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">iotf@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br><strong>Subject:</strong> [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear members of the IOTF,</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Attached, please find the rationale for PTI staffing recommendations we have made in the PTI Implementation Approach document. We look forward to hearing any feedback you may have. </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" lang="EN-US">Yuko Green</span></strong><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" lang="EN-US">Strategic Programs Manager</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" lang="EN-US">Global Domains Division</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" lang="EN-US">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" lang="EN-US">Direct Line:  </span><a href="tel:%2B1%20310%20578%208693" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US">+1 310 578 8693</span></a><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" lang="EN-US">Mobile: </span><a href="tel:%2B1%20310%20745%201517" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US">+1 310 745 1517</span></a><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black" lang="EN-US">E-mail:  </span><a href="mailto:yuko.green@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US">yuko.green@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.icann.org/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" lang="EN-US">www.icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"><br>_______________________________________________<br>CWG-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