<div dir="ltr">Seun:<div><br></div><div>We can instantiate PTI with secondment employees to move forward with the transition but all PTI new employees after this need to be employees of PTI.</div><div><br></div><div>-ed<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:15 AM Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Hello,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Just thinking aloud here, assuming staff of PTI are handled by secondment, what part of the CWG proposal will that go against? How will that hinder the community from exercising any of the community powers? What impact will it have in the operation of the functions?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 17 Jun 2016 3:06 p.m., "Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In my opinion, this is the kind of discussion that is needed. I sincerely wish we could have had it a couple months ago but it is what it is. I am looking
forward to how staff responds to the issues that have been raised and encourage all of us to work collaboratively to address the issues and facilitate a timely and smooth transition.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Chuck<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 17, 2016 9:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com" target="_blank">kurt@kjpritz.com</a>; Greg Shatan; Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Chuck, Kurt<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I think Kurt’s approach to the separation is a very radical undoing of the whole PTI model.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I really don’t like the way our hard-won reforms are being undone while people’s attention is occupied by other things.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kurt says:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light","sans-serif"">“On a more basic issue, I see no daylight between the loyalty to performing the IANA function and working toward the ICANN mission. They were inextricably bound up
at the formation of ICANN. Every organization has some tension between the executive/Board and the operating entities underneath. But I see the mission of PTI and ICANN more aligned than any other combination of PTI and some other organization.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_5886176935288321251_m_7658805870039776534__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This comment makes me wonder where Kurt was during the extensive discussion and debate over the need to create PTI. He is also wrong
about ICANN’s mission, which was redefined precisely to make it clear that the IFO is a contracted function and not a core part of ICANN’s mission.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We have agreed as part of the transition that it is important to separate the policy making entity from the implementation entity. Some of us argued that IANA
functions should be divested from ICANN altogether. ICANN itself of course wanted to retain a perpetual monopoly on IANA functions. The PTI arrangement was a compromise between those two positions. It is unseemly to try to unwind that compromise at this juncture.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">By undermining the separation of ICANN and IANA in this way, we are also playing into the hands of those in the U.S. Congress who would call for a delay (which
would probably be permanent) in the implementation of the transition. This is true because you are increasing the level of dissatisfaction with the proposed reforms and providing another excuse for people to claim that ICANN cannot be trusted to become independent.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">--MM<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com" target="_blank">kurt@kjpritz.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>; Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought that Greg's comments to the ICANN Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations merited a response focusing some operational aspects of the plan. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for taking the time to read these. i hope they are helpful to your thinking.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<br>
From: "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: 6/13/16 1:10 pm<br>
To: "Jonathan Robinson" <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">My thoughts on the rationale explanation are on the attached document as marginal comments.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">All,</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">FYI.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">Please note We did not have an IOTF call today so have not yet had the opportunity to discuss this item.</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1f497d">Jonathan</span><span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> Yuko Green [mailto:<a href="mailto:yuko.green@icann.org" target="_blank">yuko.green@icann.org</a>]
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<strong>Sent:</strong> 10 June 2016 18:05<br>
<strong>To:</strong> <a href="mailto:iotf@icann.org" target="_blank">iotf@icann.org</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<span lang="EN-IE"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attached, please find the rationale for PTI staffing recommendations we have made in the PTI Implementation Approach document. We look forward to hearing any feedback you may have.
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