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<div>Yes I think that we need to recognise that much of the the community largely felt like we compromised (Albeit an acceptable one) in the level of separability and any further challenges to that principle will really cause problems. I have yet to see a reason
from ICANN staff as to why the secondment is required rather than preferable, at one stage a legal memo was in the works but I don’t believe that ever materialised.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday 17 June 2016 at 15:51<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>>, "<a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com">kurt@kjpritz.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com">kurt@kjpritz.com</a>>, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I agree with Milton on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Potential separation of PTI from ICANN was a critical issue for the CWG. If the implementation of that principle dilutes or diverges from what was
agreed upon it will not only fail to realize the consensus plan but will likely be viewed as a “bait-and-switch” that calls into question the integrity and reliability of the entire implementation process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 17, 2016 9:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com">kurt@kjpritz.com</a>; Greg Shatan; Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Chuck, Kurt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I think Kurt’s approach to the separation is a very radical undoing of the whole PTI model.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I really don’t like the way our hard-won reforms are being undone while people’s attention is occupied by other things.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Kurt says:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri Light', sans-serif;">“On a more basic issue, I see no daylight between the loyalty to performing the IANA function and working toward the ICANN mission. They were inextricably bound up
at the formation of ICANN. Every organization has some tension between the executive/Board and the operating entities underneath. But I see the mission of PTI and ICANN more aligned than any other combination of PTI and some other organization.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Calibri Light', sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">This comment makes me wonder where Kurt was during the extensive discussion and debate over the need to create PTI. He is
also wrong about ICANN’s mission, which was redefined precisely to make it clear that the IFO is a contracted function and not a core part of ICANN’s mission.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We have agreed as part of the transition that it is important to separate the policy making entity from the implementation entity. Some of us argued
that IANA functions should be divested from ICANN altogether. ICANN itself of course wanted to retain a perpetual monopoly on IANA functions. The PTI arrangement was a compromise between those two positions. It is unseemly to try to unwind that compromise
at this juncture. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">By undermining the separation of ICANN and IANA in this way, we are also playing into the hands of those in the U.S. Congress who would call for a
delay (which would probably be permanent) in the implementation of the transition. This is true because you are increasing the level of dissatisfaction with the proposed reforms and providing another excuse for people to claim that ICANN cannot be trusted
to become independent. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">--MM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com">kurt@kjpritz.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>; Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Everyone: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I thought that Greg's comments to the ICANN Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations merited a response focusing some operational aspects of the plan. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To make it easier to read, I pasted Greg's comments into the document itself in italics and then followed those comments with my own.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for taking the time to read these. i hope they are helpful to your thinking.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kurt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<br>
From: "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: 6/13/16 1:10 pm<br>
To: "Jonathan Robinson" <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">All, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">My thoughts on the rationale explanation are on the attached document as marginal comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">Greg Shatan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D">All,</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D">FYI.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D">Please note We did not have an IOTF call today so have not yet had the opportunity to discuss this item.</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D">Jonathan</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><strong>From:</strong> Yuko Green [mailto:<a href="mailto:yuko.green@icann.org" target="_blank">yuko.green@icann.org</a>]
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<strong>Sent:</strong> 10 June 2016 18:05<br>
<strong>To:</strong> <a href="mailto:iotf@icann.org" target="_blank">iotf@icann.org</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear members of the IOTF,<span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Attached, please find the rationale for PTI staffing recommendations we have made in the PTI Implementation Approach document. We look forward to hearing any feedback you may have.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regards,<span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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