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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-IE link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>At the most recent IOTF call, Akram indicated that they were working on a revised proposal to deal with staffing that, in my view, should significantly mitigate the concerns many have expressed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Here is a link to that call.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.icann.org/stewardship-implementation">https://www.icann.org/stewardship-implementation</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Scroll down for:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Jun 20 2016 - Implementation Oversight Task Force Call #13<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> kurt@kjpritz.com [mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 22 June 2016 20:52<br><b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L <milton@gatech.edu>; Guru Acharya <gurcharya@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> cwg-stewardship@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Comments in line below.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kurt<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #C2C2C2 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 2.0pt;margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>--------- Original Message --------- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations<br>From: "Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>Date: 6/22/16 12:10 pm<br>To: "Guru Acharya" <<a href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Guru Acharya [<a href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com">mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com</a>] </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>While I wholeheartedly support strong separability, I personally don't see a problem with secondment of ICANN staff to PTI. From what I remember, PTI's staff does not have any role to play in the separation<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>MM: It doesn’t matter what you have or do not have a problem with. The goal now is to implement the proposal, not to re-litigate the proposal. According to the finalized proposal PTI is not a department of ICANN but an independent legal entity. The plan was to _<em><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>transfer</span></em>_ staff from ICANN to PTI, not to second them. IANA staff would become part of PTI, not a department of ICANN. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:seagreen'>Kurt: Milton, I think you should be approaching this discussion in a more collegial manner in order to better understand Guru's thinking. When I read his email, I took it to mean that Guru "doesn't see a problem, i.e., a problem that secondment clashes with the proposal." I did not read that Guru was trying to upset the proposal. Secondment is a transfer, although as Greg pointed out, generally of a temporary term. I don't think that's necessarily a bar to a similar mechanism. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I think we can all agree that we do not want to see people from ICANN walking into a door and becoming PTI for a few hours and then walking out the door and becoming ICANN staff. That is not in line with either the spirit or the letter of the proposal. As others have noted, there are loyalty/mission issues with that. It was simply wrong of ICANN to propose it. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:seagreen'>Kurt: Milton, I think you have resorted to unneeded and unhelpful hyperbole here. Even critics of secondment aren't picturing the sort of revolving door you depict. I see 3-5 year contracts. This is the length (or longer) of many employment contracts so, in a sense, a benefit of secondment is that it gives PTI the duty to evaluate a staff member who hasn't moved in position for an extended period to determine if s/he should be retained</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>That said, I also wish to note that the current separation process is undoubtedly skewed in favour of a very weak form of separability by giving the board the option to reject it twice. However, I don't think secondment of ICANN staff to PTI has a role in making separability any weaker.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>It does make it weaker by tying PTI staff to ICANN and increasing ICANN – and the staff-s resistance to any form of separation. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ CWG-Stewardship mailing list <a href="mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org">CWG-Stewardship@icann.org</a> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>