<p dir="ltr">Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos<br>
On 30 Jun 2016 16:32, "Jonathan Robinson" <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Note that in the (b) scenario, the independent directors could effectively veto the chair since the ICANN nominated and appointed chair would (I assume) not have a vote in their own selection.<br>
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SO: Correct though I would note that it should be construed in such a way that would ensure a collective decision of the 2 independent members can make such veto happen. </p>
<p dir="ltr">In that sense I would say that only the ICANN appointed board member who is elected Chair should not have a vote in the veto process. I think the second ICANN board appointee should have a vote. This maintains balance across the 2 categories.</p>
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> From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>] <br>
> Sent: 29 June 2016 11:36<br>
> To: 'Seun Ojedeji' <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>>; 'Chuck Gomes' <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
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> Cc: 'Lise Fuhr' <<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>>; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
> Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table<br>
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> All,<br>
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> Thank-you for the additional thoughtful input.<br>
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> Lise and I have met to discuss these points and we feel that there is a delicate balance to manage here, taking account of key issues as follows:<br>
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> 1. This has been thoroughly discussed over a number of meetings (following the five step process outlined on 6 June 2016)<br>
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> 2. Key issues for many in the CWG are the very fine balance between independence of PTI and its legal affiliation to ICANN. <br>
> The Nom Com selected appointees are seen by many as not necessarily being more “superior and trustworthy” as such but they are, by definition, independent of ICANN. It is this independence that is a key factor.<br>
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> 3. The opportunity for the CWG to draft specifications to the Nom Com for director qualifications thus ensuring relevant competence (including chair skills) of Nom Com selected nominee directors<br>
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> 4. Our timeline for conclusion (including the plan to publish bylaw documents for public comment imminently)<br>
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> 5. The opportunity for future review (in 2 years)<br>
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> On the basis of the above, we are proceeding as previously outlined.<br>
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> Thank-you again,<br>
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> From: Seun Ojedeji [mailto:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>] <br>
> Sent: 28 June 2016 20:52<br>
> To: Chuck Gomes <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
> Cc: Lise Fuhr <<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>>; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table<br>
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> I assume it's the board votes that would determine who is more qualified and not any external sources, other than that, my +1 to Chuck's suggested edit.<br>
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> Regards <br>
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> On 28 Jun 2016 4:41 p.m., "Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Greg/James,<br>
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>> Are you saying that you believe the chair must be one of the NomCom appointees? If so, what if neither of the non-Nom nominated directors is as qualified as one of the ICANN appointed directors (excluding he PTI President) or if the NomCom nominated directors are not able to commit the extra time needed to be chair? Why limit the possibilities? It seems to me that we would want the best qualified leader to serve as Board chair.<br>
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>> I agree with Seun’s concern but I would be okay with language along this line: “The Board chair should be one of the NomCom appointees unless they are unable to serve in that capacity or if one of the other directors (excluding the President) are more qualified.”<br>
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>> From: <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Greg Shatan<br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:07 AM<br>
>> To: James Gannon<br>
>> Cc: Lise Fuhr; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
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>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table<br>
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>> Agee with Matt and James.<br>
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>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:42 AM, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Agree with Matt for the record.<br>
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>> From: <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Matthew Shears <<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>><br>
>> Date: Tuesday 28 June 2016 at 09:34<br>
>> To: Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: Lise Fuhr <<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table<br>
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>> To be clear I don't agree with the proposed change by Seun to 5.4 for the reasons that were fully discussed in the meeting in which we agreed the text.<br>
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>> On Tuesday, 28 June 2016, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Dear Co-Chairs,<br>
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>> May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list?<br>
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>> Regards<br>
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>> Sent from my LG G4<br>
>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos<br>
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>> On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow 2 points from the final text.<br>
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>> Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text:<br>
>> "The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question.<br>
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>> Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below:<br>
>> "The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval."<br>
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>> Regards<br>
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>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Dear all,<br>
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>> Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.<br>
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>> Grace Abuhamad<br>
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>> Manager, Public Policy<br>
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>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
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>> 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006<br>
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>> Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<br>
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>> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? <br>
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>> LEARN MORE. STAY UPDATED. FOLLOW. ENGAGE. <br>
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>> From: <<a href="mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org">iotf-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Grace Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>><br>
>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM<br>
>> To: "Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:iotf@icann.org">iotf@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:iotf@icann.org">iotf@icann.org</a>><br>
>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table<br>
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>> Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”.<br>
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>> I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.<br>
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>> Grace Abuhamad<br>
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>> Manager, Public Policy<br>
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>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
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>> 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006<br>
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>> Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<br>
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>> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Transition? <br>
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>> LEARN MORE. STAY UPDATED. FOLLOW. ENGAGE. <br>
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>> From: "Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
>> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM<br>
>> To: Grace Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:iotf@icann.org">iotf@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:iotf@icann.org">iotf@icann.org</a>><br>
>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table<br>
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>> The edits look good to me. Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted?<br>
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>> “Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President.<br>
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>> Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1] [2] <br>
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>> Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.”<br>
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>> From: <a href="mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org">iotf-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:iotf-bounces@icann.org">iotf-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad<br>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:16 PM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:iotf@icann.org">iotf@icann.org</a><br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
>> Subject: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table<br>
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>> Dear all,<br>
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>> Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process!<br>
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>> --Grace<br>
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>> Grace Abuhamad<br>
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>> Manager, Public Policy<br>
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>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
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>> 801 17th Street NW, Suite 400 | Washington, DC 20006<br>
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>> Direct: +1 202 249 7545 | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<br>
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>> Interested in the IANA Stewardship Trans</p>