<p dir="ltr">Hello,</p>
<p dir="ltr">First apologies again for missing the meeting today as I expect what I am about to say must have been discussed at length. I just had a brief look on the community agreement and I was like wow! I cannot help but wonder whether we are still talking about IANA IPR or the actual ownership of the IANA functions.</p>
<p dir="ltr">My first general impression about this is that i think this is too complicated and too unnecessarily detailed and cumbersome. There are quite a number of segments in the agreement that makes it clear that the CCG is in control while the trust is just an implementation medium; I liken the trust role to that of the sole member. One of such sections is quoted below:</p>
<p dir="ltr">"Accordingly, the IETF Trust agrees, as set forth below, to seek the advice and *consent* of the CCG with respect to *all* matters concerning the IANA Intellectual Property,..."</p>
<p dir="ltr">Will I have no problem with notification to the operational communities, the above implies requirement for approval of CCG for everything the IETF does relating to IANA IPR and domain. This IMO is an overkill and is not acceptable, not just because i feel it's technical wrong to control a Trust in such manner but because it's improper to put such power in the hands of volunteer community (Infact it's in the hand of 1 person from each community since the agreement suggests that the trust should not question communication from respective Co-Chairs).</p>
<p dir="ltr">I thought the CCG was going to act in a review mode; while providing advice to their respective communities(or directly to the trust) whenever issues are identified but this is way beyond the scope. I believe any official communication to the Trust that are critical MUST always come from executives of the respective communities and NOT from CCG. Afterall the executives will be the signatories to the agreement.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Overall i am quite uncomfortable with the community agreement and I hope that this issue would be addressed amicably. As I have always said, the protocol is the source of all these and I don't see why we are overloading this particular part of the transition unnecessarily.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards<br>
Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 Jul 2016 11:29 a.m., "Jonathan Robinson" <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-IE" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">All,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Please see attached for the revised drafts of the </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">IPR License and the Community Agreement.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jonathan</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Hofheimer, Joshua T. [mailto:<a href="mailto:jhofheimer@sidley.com" target="_blank">jhofheimer@sidley.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 27 July 2016 01:03<br><b>To:</b> Client Committee <<a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [client com] IANA IPR License & Community Agreement Template<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Greg and all,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Attached are the final CWG revised drafts of the IPR License and the Community Agreement, clean and marked against the originals. Per my prior note Greg, are you going to post, or do you want Sidley to do so.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Josh<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Joshua Hofheimer<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Sidley Austin LLP<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href="mailto:jhofheimer@sidley.com" target="_blank">jhofheimer@sidley.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">(213) 896-6061 (LA direct)<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">(650) 565-7561 (Palo Alto direct)<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">(323) 708-2405 (cell)<u></u><u></u></span></i></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US">****************************************************************************************************<br>This e-mail is sent by a law firm and may contain information that is privileged or confidential.<br>If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the e-mail and any attachments and notify us<br>immediately.<br><br>****************************************************************************************************<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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