<p dir="ltr">Thanks for the share Greg, it just amazes me the level of back and forth between CCG and the Trust that has been formalised by this agreement. This IPR thing is not a bone of contention at moment yet everything functioned well. Over 18 pages just feels too unnecessarily "robust" for a task that has been far from being noticed so far and IMO continues to diminish the concept of "trust" that has made the Internet flourish thus far. Anyway it's okay if the Trust and the two other OCs are fine. </p>
<p dir="ltr">That said, quick few points that I like to raise:</p>
<p dir="ltr">1. There is no doubt that the signatory for names would be ICANN. I don't see any reason to consider any other entity for this purpose.</p>
<p dir="ltr">2. While I understand that the agreement is implementing the notion of separation of the functions already implied in respective community proposal, I think the OCs should try as much as possible to be in sync hence I suggest communications from a OC chair should be known to other members of CCG before transmission to the Trust(re: 2.3d). Ofcourse that could be included in operating principles of CCG.</p>
<p dir="ltr">3. I am not a lawyer but reading section 3.1, it seem that section technically seeds authority to CCG(which represents the respective communities). Particularly the section below:</p>
<p dir="ltr">".....Accordingly, to the fullest extent permitted by applicable law, the IETF Trust hereby delegates to the Operational
Communities the IETF Trust’s authority, as the record-owner of the IANA Trademarks,......"</p>
<p dir="ltr">It will be good to know that is not the case.</p>
<p dir="ltr">4. I hope the authority implied in 2c,d does not mean that the Trust cannot ask questions; While I recognise that it's rare and unlikely for a co-chair to use the power accrued to them without consulting their community. I feel not giving the Trust option to authenticate/validate communication, opens room for hack. ;-)</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 Aug 2016 11:24 p.m., "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">CWG,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am forwarding a revised draft of the proposed Community Agreement relating to the IANA IPR. In addition to any other comments you may have, I draw your attention to the two specific items in the email below: (1) identifying an entity to sign for the names community, and (2) providing a brief description of the IANA Services used by the names community (<u>see</u> Exhibit A for descriptions provided by the other communities).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This will be the subject of further refinement by the IPR collaborative group early in the week, with the goal of initiating a public comment period as soon as possible after the CWG-IANA meeting on Thursday.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="elided-text">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Hofheimer, Joshua T.</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jhofheimer@sidley.com" target="_blank">jhofheimer@sidley.com</a>></span><br>Date: Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 4:55 PM<br>Subject: [client com] FW: Revised Community Agreement Draft: 08-05-2016<br>To: Client <<a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-client@icann.org</a>><br><br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Attached please find a revised draft of the proposed Community Agreement for your review and comment. This is an iterative version prepared jointly by counsel
(Sidley) to the CWG and counsel to the IETF Trust to reflect the 7-point discussion items. To be clear, it is still a work in progress, but we believe ready for the CWG to have an opportunity for review.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Two important issues to highlight:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1) the Names Community needs to determine who will be the signatory party, acting on behalf of the Names Community, to the Community
Agreement. For your information, the attached draft has the organizations put forward to represent the Numbers and Protocols Communities; and<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">2) we need a brief description of the IANA services to be provided on behalf of the Names Community. The following high-level description was included in a
draft of the Naming Functions Agreement. If this is acceptable for including here is well, please advise (or we ask the Client Committee to provide a sufficient description):<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="text-indent:.5in"><span style="text-decoration:none">The “<b>IANA Naming Function</b>” is comprised of:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="text-indent:0in"><a name="m_-642536383992828785_m_6520436911750736115__Ref456765300"><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span>(a)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u>Management of the DNS Root Zone (“<b>Root Zone Management</b>”);</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="text-indent:0in"><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span>(b)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u>Management of the .INT top-level domain;<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="text-indent:0in"><u></u><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span>(c)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u>Maintenance of a repository of internationalized domain name tables and label generation rule sets; and<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u>Provision of other services related to the management of .INT top-level domains, at ICANN’s reasonable request and at ICANN’s expense.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Please provide any comment or feedback as soon as practical, as we are trying to finalize the draft for approval by the various stakeholders and release for
public comment by Thursday.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thank you in advance.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div>
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:iana-ipr@nro.net" target="_blank">iana-ipr@nro.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Iana-ipr] Revised Community Agreement Draft: 08-05-2016<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">All – attached is a draft of the Community Agreement that Josh and I have collaborated on over the past two days. We believe that it reflects the current requirements
of the parties, and submit it for your review and discussion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">A clean version, as well as a marked version against the draft of 07-30-16 (in PDF format) are attached.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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