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Hello all,<br>
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I usually agree with a lot of points that Christopher makes, but on
this occasion, I disagree.<br>
<br>
PTI needs to be operational for the transition to take place. For
this, it needs a Board. It is not uncommon to have temporary
appointments. I consider Jonathan and Lise to be of such calibre,
trust and experience that they are the perfect people to fill these
temporary positions. I also consider that, having no skin in the
game and with their extensive experience, they would be absolutely
able to push back on any "unreasonable and unmanageable pressures".<br>
<br>
The only concern I could see is that there would be irrelevant
accusations of "insiders filling positions". But what alternative do
we have? Deferring the constitution of PTI is not an option.<br>
<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
(own views)<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/08/2016 19:01, Christopher
Wilkinson wrote:<br>
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<base href="x-msg://21/">Dear Jonathan, Dear Lise:
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<div>I do not support this option. I consider that the
constitution of PTI should be deferred until the Nominating
Committee has made its appointments.</div>
<div>Although I respect and admire the offer from the Co-Chairs to
act as temporary alternates for the - not-yet-appointed - NomCom
Directors, I would be concerned that you - as PTI Board members
- would be subject to unreasonable and unmanageable pressures
meanwhile, including in the election of a Chair of the PTI
Board. </div>
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</div>
<div>In the light of recent experience, I note that CWG has been
driven by a few very interested stakeholders towards a position
that would facilitate, if not anticipate, an early separation of
PTI from ICANN and its probable severance into two or three
distinct entities, and that this orientation has been
facilitated, if not explicitly supported, by CWG counsel.
Whereas I am reasonable certain that this does not represent the
opinion of a wide range of other stakeholders.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, I suggest that it is time to call a halt to the vast
volume of impenetrable legalese that has been generated in the
matters of the PTI Bylaws, the licensing of IANA IPR, and the
so-called Annexe C. Most of which is unnecessary for the
Transition at this stage when - apparently - time is of the
essence. Particularly as some of this material purports to
address aspects of Internet management about which there are -
to the best of my knowledge - no current concerns. Specifically,
all discussion of the legal aspects of eventual separation,
severance or separability, should be deferred until the
Empowered Community has effectively taken a decision that we
wish to move in that direction, the procedures for which having
been defined in the Transition proposal.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>More generally, the Empowered Community, the PTI Board, and -
dare I say so - CWG's Legal Counsel have, perforce to date, no
experience in the implementation of the proposed Transition.</div>
<div>I suggest that it would be prudent to let the Transition
function, as proposed and approved, for 12 to 18 months before
going any further. Meanwhile we should avoid proposals that are
so detailed and abstract that they engender at best mistrust and
at worst a fear of opportunism.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Christopher Wilkinson</div>
<div><br>
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<div>On 09 Aug 2016, at 17:30, Jonathan Robinson <<a
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href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hi Sharon.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br>
The IOTF was simply put in place to provide a
high-frequency touch point for ICANN staff as they
worked on the implementation. The context for the
introduction of the IOTF was the “secondment issue”
whereby ICANN staff got too far ahead of the
community in their implementation work. The IOTF had
no decision making capabilities, these remained
reserved for the CWG. Therefore, I am not sure it is
necessary to reference the IOTF.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Accordingly, I
would suggest rewording the below as:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 45pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;
text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family:
Symbol; " lang="EN-US"><span>·<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><b><i><span
style="" lang="EN-US">CWG-Stewardship Comment</span></i></b><span
style="" lang="EN-US">: <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="color: red; " lang="EN-US">The CWG recognized<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="" lang="EN-US">that the Nominating Committee
process for selecting the PTI Nominating Committee
Directors would not be in place prior to the
transition and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="color: red; " lang="EN-US">therefore<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="" lang="EN-US">recommended that the two
directors be identified prior to the transition to
serve in the interim until the first election of PTI
directors. It was<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span
style="color: red; " lang="EN-US">proposed</span><span
style="" lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>that the
Co-chairs of the CWG-Stewardship, Lise Fuhr and
Jonathan Robinson, serve as the initial Nominating
Committee Directors until the first election of the
PTI directors. The CWG-Stewardship supports this</span><span
style="color: red; " lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>proposal</span><span
style="" lang="EN-US">. Should these individuals be
unable to serve, the CWG-Stewardship would select
qualified alternate nominees, and appointment of
these alternate nominees would be subject to ICANN’s
approval (not to be unreasonably withheld,
conditioned or delayed). The CWG-Stewardship
proposes that Section 5.5.1 of the Draft PTI Bylaws
be modified as set forth below to describe the
process for selecting the initial Nominating
Committee Directors to be in place at the time of
transition. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Any comment from
others?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div>
<div>
<div style="border-style: solid none none;
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225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; ">
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Flanagan,
Sharon [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:sflanagan@">mailto:sflanagan@</a><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sidley.com" style="color: purple;
text-decoration: underline; ">sidley.com</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>09
August 2016 06:12<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Client
Committee <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline; ">cwg-client@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[client
com] FW: CWG Comment Letter - PTI Bylaws<o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US">Dear
Client Committee,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US">Attached
is a revised draft of the CWG comment letter to the
PTI bylaws. This reflects revisions to #4 and #5 of
the comment letter. Specifically, we have revised
the draft to address the appointment of Lise and
Jonathan as the initial non-ICANN PTI directors. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US">In
particular, we would appreciate a review of the
description of the IOTF work below for accuracy
since we were not directly involved in those
discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US">Given
the tight timing (comments are due on Thursday), we
are sending this to you and ICANN legal
simultaneously, and they may have further comments.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US">Best
regards,<br>
Sharon<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); " lang="EN-US"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span lang="EN-US"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 27pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;
text-indent: -18pt; "><b><span style="" lang="EN-US"><span>1.<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant:
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span></b><b><span
style="" lang="EN-US">Initial Directors (Section
5.5.1)<o:p></o:p></span></b></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 27pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span
style="" lang="EN-US"> </span></b></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 45pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;
text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family:
Symbol; " lang="EN-US"><span>·<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><b><i><span
style="" lang="EN-US">Text from Draft PTI Bylaws</span></i></b><b><span
style="" lang="EN-US">:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
style="" lang="EN-US">For the appointment of the
initial directors of PTI, Section 5.5.1 of the Draft
PTI Bylaws provides as follows: “Other than
Directors initially appointed by the incorporator of
the Corporation (which Directors shall hold office
until the first election of Directors) and the
President of the Corporation, the Directors shall be
elected by the Member at the annual meeting of the
Corporation….” <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style=""
lang="EN-US"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 45pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;
text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family:
Symbol; " lang="EN-US"><span>·<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; "> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><b><i><span
style="" lang="EN-US">CWG-Stewardship Comment</span></i></b><span
style="" lang="EN-US">: In connection with the work
of the Implementation Oversight Task Force, it was
noted that the Nominating Committee process for
selecting the PTI Nominating Committee Directors
would not be in place prior to the transition and
recommended that the two directors be identified
prior to the transition to serve in the interim
until the first election of PTI directors. It was
recommended that the Co-chairs of the
CWG-Stewardship, Lise Fuhr and Jonathan Robinson,
serve as the initial Nominating Committee Directors
until the first election of the PTI directors. The
CWG-Stewardship supports this recommendation.
Should these individuals be unable to serve, the
CWG-Stewardship would select qualified alternate
nominees, and appointment of these alternate
nominees would be subject to ICANN’s approval (not
to be unreasonably withheld, conditioned or
delayed). The CWG-Stewardship proposes that Section
5.5.1 of the Draft PTI Bylaws be modified as set
forth below to describe the process for selecting
the initial Nominating Committee Directors to be in
place at the time of transition. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 45pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
style="" lang="EN-US"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 45pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span
style="" lang="EN-US">“</span><u><span style="color:
blue; letter-spacing: 0.05pt; " lang="EN-US">Each
initial Director of the Corporation shall hold
office until the first election of Directors for
such Director’s seat. <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u><s><span
style="color: red; " lang="EN-US">Other than</span></s><span
style="" lang="EN-US"> </span><u><span style="color:
blue; letter-spacing: 0.05pt; " lang="EN-US">The
initial<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></u><span
style="" lang="EN-US">Directors<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><s><span
style="color: red; " lang="EN-US">initially<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></s><u><span
style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0.05pt; "
lang="EN-US">shall be</span></u><span style=""
lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>appointed
by the</span><u><span style="color: blue;
letter-spacing: 0.05pt; " lang="EN-US">Member</span></u><span
style="" lang="EN-US"> </span><s><span style="color:
red; " lang="EN-US">incorporator of the
Corporation (which Directors shall hold office
until the first election of Directors)</span></s><u><span
style="color: blue; letter-spacing: 0.05pt; "
lang="EN-US">, with the Cross Community Working
Group to Develop an IANA Stewardship Transition
Proposal on Naming Related Functions selecting two
qualified nominees for appointment as the initial
Nominating Committee Directors by the Member.
Other than the initial Directors</span></u><span
style="" lang="EN-US"><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and the
President of the Corporation, the Directors shall be
elected by the Member at the annual meeting....”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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