<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Chris,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">You're misreading the agreement and the letter.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The language you quote regarding "<span style="font-size:12.8px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement, approvals</span>" is from the Community Agreement and refers to the relationship between the Community Coordination Group and the IETF Trust. This should be readily apparent when looking at the entire Section 2.1, from which you pulled that quote:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><p class="MsoNormal">"The CCG is hereby formed, and shall operate in accordance
with the terms set forth below, to provide guidance, advice, and if expressly
specified in this Agreement, approvals, to the IETF Trust regarding the
stewardship of the IANA Intellectual Property."<span></span></p></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The language you quote regarding "Instructs" and "directs" is from the Letter of Instruction and refers to the relationship between the Names Community and ICANN acting as a signatory on behalf of the Names Community. This can be seen in Section 3 of the Letter of Instruction </span><font face="verdana, sans-serif">("ICANN will follow the instructions of the Names
Community") as well as in Section 7 ("ICANN will act solely at the direction of the
Names Community").</font><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Each is appropriate for their respective circumstances.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Please let me know if I can be of further assistance in understanding the agreements. It strikes me that, once the CCG representatives have all been selected, a webinar or other presentation on the agreements might be in order. This will help those who were relatively less involved in the process understand the agreements and the relationships among the parties.</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Best regards,</font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Greg</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Christopher Wilkinson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Umm … then how did we get from:<br>
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<<…guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement, approvals…>><br>
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to " instructs" and "directs" - ?<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
CW<br>
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On 24 Sep 2016, at 11:22, Jaap Akkerhuis <<a href="mailto:jaap@nlnetlabs.nl">jaap@nlnetlabs.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Morning Steve,<br>
><br>
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 22:23, Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve.crocker@board.icann.org">steve.crocker@board.icann.org</a><wbr>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for this. What does CCG stand for? Apologies if it’s there and I missed it. My eyes glazed over with the plethora of acronyms.<br>
><br>
> I'm nog sure whether anybody bothered to answer this, but since I'm<br>
> too loosing track of the acronyms and especially this one as well (it is<br>
> used for different groups I counted at least three), I looked up a<br>
> reference (again). In this case it is the Community Community Group<br>
> created in the "IANA IPR Community Agreement" [1] to "to provide<br>
> guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement,<br>
> approvals, to the IETF Trust regarding the stewardship of the IANA<br>
> Intellectual Property".<br>
><br>
> jaap<br>
><br>
><br>
> [1]<br>
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