<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Verdana;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.hoenzb
{mso-style-name:hoenzb;}
span.EpostStil18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt 70.85pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang="NO-BOK" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Greg, yes, - a webinar or other presentation on the agreements is a good idea. This will be informative also for Chairs of the SO/ACs that will be the “Consenting” after CWG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Elise </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]
<b>På vegne av</b> Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 24. september 2016 21:22<br>
<b>Til:</b> Christopher Wilkinson<br>
<b>Kopi:</b> cwg-stewardship@icann.org<br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Letter of instruction from the CWG to ICANN regarding the IANA IPR Community Agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">You're misreading the agreement and the letter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The language you quote regarding "</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement, approvals</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">"
is from the Community Agreement and refers to the relationship between the Community Coordination Group and the IETF Trust. This should be readily apparent when looking at the entire Section 2.1, from which you pulled that quote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">"The CCG is hereby formed, and shall operate in accordance with the terms set forth below, to provide guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement, approvals,
to the IETF Trust regarding the stewardship of the IANA Intellectual Property."<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The language you quote regarding "Instructs" and "directs" is from the Letter of Instruction and refers to the relationship between the Names Community and ICANN acting as a signatory on
behalf of the Names Community. This can be seen in Section 3 of the Letter of Instruction ("ICANN will follow the instructions of the Names Community") as well as in Section 7 ("ICANN will act solely at the direction of the Names Community").</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Each is appropriate for their respective circumstances.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Please let me know if I can be of further assistance in understanding the agreements. It strikes me that, once the CCG representatives have all been selected, a webinar or other presentation
on the agreements might be in order. This will help those who were relatively less involved in the process understand the agreements and the relationships among the parties.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Greg</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Christopher Wilkinson <<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Umm … then how did we get from:<br>
<br>
<<…guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement, approvals…>><br>
<br>
to " instructs" and "directs" - ?<br>
<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span class="hoenzb">CW</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
On 24 Sep 2016, at 11:22, Jaap Akkerhuis <<a href="mailto:jaap@nlnetlabs.nl">jaap@nlnetlabs.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Morning Steve,<br>
><br>
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 22:23, Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve.crocker@board.icann.org">steve.crocker@board.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for this. What does CCG stand for? Apologies if it’s there and I missed it. My eyes glazed over with the plethora of acronyms.<br>
><br>
> I'm nog sure whether anybody bothered to answer this, but since I'm<br>
> too loosing track of the acronyms and especially this one as well (it is<br>
> used for different groups I counted at least three), I looked up a<br>
> reference (again). In this case it is the Community Community Group<br>
> created in the "IANA IPR Community Agreement" [1] to "to provide<br>
> guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement,<br>
> approvals, to the IETF Trust regarding the stewardship of the IANA<br>
> Intellectual Property".<br>
><br>
> jaap<br>
><br>
><br>
> [1]<br>
> <<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49351404/Community-Agreement%20-%2008-05-2016%20marked%20against%2007-30-2016.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1473771319000&api=v2" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49351404/Community-Agreement%20-%2008-05-2016%20marked%20against%2007-30-2016.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1473771319000&api=v2</a>><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> CWG-Stewardship mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org">CWG-Stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship" target="_blank">
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship</a><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
CWG-Stewardship mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org">CWG-Stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>