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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-IE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Picking up on a few of the points raised in this thread.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Apologies that the acronym never got defined in the final letter. It wasn’t strictly necessary but would have made it clearer as had been suggested.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Some form of more detailed communication (Webinar or other) will indeed be helpful<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Appointment letters need to be signed by the three CCG reps. You will have seen these posted to the list just prior to this email.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank-you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Lise & Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Olawale Bakare via CWG-Stewardship [mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org] <br><b>Sent:</b> 26 September 2016 18:16<br><b>To:</b> Lindeberg, Elise <elise.lindeberg@nkom.no><br><b>Cc:</b> CWG on IANA Stewardship Transition <cwg-stewardship@icann.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Letter of instruction from the CWG to ICANN regarding the IANA IPR Community Agreement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>+1<o:p></o:p></p><p>Regards,<br>Wale<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 26 Sep 2016 13:06, "Lindeberg, Elise" <<a href="mailto:elise.lindeberg@nkom.no">elise.lindeberg@nkom.no</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Greg, yes, - a webinar or other presentation on the agreements is a good idea. This will be informative also for Chairs of the SO/ACs that will be the “Consenting” after CWG.</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Best</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Elise </span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Fra:</span></b><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>På vegne av</b> Greg Shatan<br><b>Sendt:</b> 24. september 2016 21:22<br><b>Til:</b> Christopher Wilkinson<br><b>Kopi:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br><b>Emne:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Letter of instruction from the CWG to ICANN regarding the IANA IPR Community Agreement.</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Chris,</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>You're misreading the agreement and the letter.</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The language you quote regarding "</span><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement, approvals</span><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>" is from the Community Agreement and refers to the relationship between the Community Coordination Group and the IETF Trust. This should be readily apparent when looking at the entire Section 2.1, from which you pulled that quote:</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK>"The CCG is hereby formed, and shall operate in accordance with the terms set forth below, to provide guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement, approvals, to the IETF Trust regarding the stewardship of the IANA Intellectual Property."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>The language you quote regarding "Instructs" and "directs" is from the Letter of Instruction and refers to the relationship between the Names Community and ICANN acting as a signatory on behalf of the Names Community. This can be seen in Section 3 of the Letter of Instruction ("ICANN will follow the instructions of the Names Community") as well as in Section 7 ("ICANN will act solely at the direction of the Names Community").</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Each is appropriate for their respective circumstances.</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Please let me know if I can be of further assistance in understanding the agreements. It strikes me that, once the CCG representatives have all been selected, a webinar or other presentation on the agreements might be in order. This will help those who were relatively less involved in the process understand the agreements and the relationships among the parties.</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Best regards,</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Greg</span><span lang=NO-BOK><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK>On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Christopher Wilkinson <<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK>Umm … then how did we get from:<br><br><<…guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement, approvals…>><br><br>to " instructs" and "directs" - ?<br><span style='color:#888888'><br>CW</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK><br>On 24 Sep 2016, at 11:22, Jaap Akkerhuis <<a href="mailto:jaap@nlnetlabs.nl" target="_blank">jaap@nlnetlabs.nl</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Morning Steve,<br>><br>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 22:23, Steve Crocker <<a href="mailto:steve.crocker@board.icann.org" target="_blank">steve.crocker@board.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Thanks for this. What does CCG stand for? Apologies if it’s there and I missed it. My eyes glazed over with the plethora of acronyms.<br>><br>> I'm nog sure whether anybody bothered to answer this, but since I'm<br>> too loosing track of the acronyms and especially this one as well (it is<br>> used for different groups I counted at least three), I looked up a<br>> reference (again). In this case it is the Community Community Group<br>> created in the "IANA IPR Community Agreement" [1] to "to provide<br>> guidance, advice, and if expressly specified in this Agreement,<br>> approvals, to the IETF Trust regarding the stewardship of the IANA<br>> Intellectual Property".<br>><br>> jaap<br>><br>><br>> [1]<br>> <<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49351404/Community-Agreement%20-%2008-05-2016%20marked%20against%2007-30-2016.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1473771319000&api=v2" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/49351404/Community-Agreement%20-%2008-05-2016%20marked%20against%2007-30-2016.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1473771319000&api=v2</a>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> CWG-Stewardship mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">CWG-Stewardship@icann.org</a><br>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>CWG-Stewardship mailing list<br><a href="mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">CWG-Stewardship@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=NO-BOK> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>CWG-Stewardship mailing list<br><a href="mailto:CWG-Stewardship@icann.org">CWG-Stewardship@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-stewardship</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>