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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear All, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:15.6pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please find the MP3 recording for the new gTLD Auction Proceeds Drafting Team
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">held on 10 August 2016 at 12:00 UTC<span style="color:black">:
</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#111111"><a href="http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXzI03ZqpsuDGgbutH3nVNCyFQnIoBtiHFTcaeu4QmqxpOexJvnwAtaKFZlbEgyFJOnwZ53Oq0o-3D_nEX-2FaOijqgcJlSz5SkmueJu3tRbmaDiuX89gT35tStEeSHP9whdoceObpMxYsFLQddiMZpQjIv8dk6BsBGSJXH7VWN4SGLCJgbGKCk6E-2FTErjF4OKNQt65Dk9NF54IJ9kQpmDNySj7bbNz9G4dXi5BgbCZotTx8KNfyeB0z00f8KsMfETeTNKd7vy2kKI7tttQUIwid4NAhxXgT3nZYwmqNfLr1357mosGO9nXJXg6jama0uuqW0m6VS6p5JobOFXJZuDPM648jqx3DajFVvGCLLe-2BdGOt9HDbBA3VvAqms-2F6clNbzKSWZGzECEigpgv0bgQzKLW3E81n9tegHPqtzoOw3WGkAlAtnn9Y4Gvgl-2BivQJZHZPyRiA8kNSCBnME5g-2BwTKodIxtjdPjUTv6dXcs5-2FjUb69tCyXGN-2F0IzeCsoJ97DoKkKYFOKqM3qvFzjG-2BXmvxe6yCRzFQVDcfhJX8JhWoWM3aGipk1q4-2F4Drf7tE878uFfS3nU-2FiRsCijM7"><span style="color:#0066B2">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-10aug16-en.mp3</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On page:
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#</a><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</a><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mailing list archives:
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/dt-cwg-auctionproceeds/"><span style="color:#3B73AF;background:white">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/dt-cwg-auctionproceeds/</span></a><i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></i></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Wiki page:
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/px6AAw">https://community.icann.org/x/px6AAw</a><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">ALAC<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Alan Greenberg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">ASO<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sylvia Cadena<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">ccNSO<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Will not be participating in the drafting team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">GAC<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Olga Cavalli<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">GNSO<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Jonathan Robinson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">RSSAC<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Brad Verd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">SSAC<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lyman Chapin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Board
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Board Liaisons
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Erika Mann<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Asha Hemrajani </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Board appointed staff advisors
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Apologies:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Tony Harris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Russ Mundy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Samantha Eisner <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">ICANN staff:</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white">Marika Konings
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Vinciane Koenigsfeld<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Lauren Allison<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">David Tait
<b><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Terri Agnew <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Adobe Connect chat transcript for
</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Wednesday, 10 August 2016<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the New gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG Charter Drafting Team held on Wednesday, 10 August 2016 at 12:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:wiki agenda page: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/gASsAw">
https://community.icann.org/x/gASsAw</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:hola Silvia!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:Hi Terry!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Hola :) <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jonathan Robinson:Hello All<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Hello <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Can some from staff give me the singapore access number? The numbers in the email are all mangled up
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:800-120-4663<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Lauren Allison:Erika is currently stuck in meetings and hopes to connect in 30 minutes. She sends her apologies in the meantime<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:any passcode?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:I hear nothing is this ok?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:65-6883-9230 (toll)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:passcode: Auction<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Alan Greenberg:AUdio ok<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:ok I hear no sound I will connect and disconnect again<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Thank you Marika and Terri. Please Terri could you confirm that it will be the same numbers for future calls?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:@Asha, confirmed it is<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Thanks Terri. Please check your private chat<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:Ihear nothing :( can you do a dial up to me? +54 11 4826 2530<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Olga, did you do "connect your audio" from your adobe top bar?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:yes i did<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:no audio on the computer, it happens sometimes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:that is correct<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:@Olga, the operator will dial out in a moment<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:comment #22, if I am not mistaken, is next<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:im in the phone now thanks!!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:that is correct<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Lauren Allison:Sam is unable to make this call due to ill health and would like me to send her apologies for the record<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:I agree Jonathan.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:We are not there yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:agree with Jonanthan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:agree - we should take the time that we need<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:If GAC needs to approve it will take time please have that in consideration<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:We cannot drag this for too long either. It is important to get a final draft soon so the apporvals process can take the time is needed.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Weekly meetings sounds ok so that we can get as close as possible to that deadline.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:No, I didn't.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:Staff can try to reconcile those or mark where there is conflict in the revised charter?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:There were a few notes in the document that we discussed in the conference call. I did add what I said on the last conference call.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Nothing different from what we discussed.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:I was taking notes on the documents during the meeting about my own comments. Sorry if that generated any confusion, but I didn't add anything that we did not discussed on the last meeting.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:sync is enabled, everyone can scroll themselves<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:good point Alan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Marika could you speak a bit slower please<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Thanks for the input Marika. Good to have that into consideration.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:Apologies Asha - I will do my best to slow down :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:That will be to help to CCWG.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:if I remember correctly, the charter currently foresees the ability for the CCWG to identify expertise needed as part of its process<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:I don't think the DT should be calling for experts at this stage, but identifying the skills/knowledge that will be needed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:@Marika, yes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:Regarding CCWG ACCT experts, I beleive it wasmore like 7 of them. We did not pay fees, but we did fly them around the world (largely or partially in business class).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:Welcome Erika Mann<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Just joined <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Hi Terri <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:@alan actually Steve did not advocate separating into 3 buckets - he was very against that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:@Alan the 3 buckets issue was just an example<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:my call drop off, please Terry ask the operator to call me again<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:The impression I got is he was advocating that. But it is moot as this wil be a CCWG discussion and decisin.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:CAn someone tguide me to the right topic <o:p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:I agree Alan - it is a CCWG discussion and decision<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:@22<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Hi Erika, we are on #22<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:comment 22 Erika<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:@Erika - comment 22 on page 17<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Thank you Marika <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:@sylvia I did not suggest that we call for experts at this stage. What I was talking about was in line with what Jonathan said<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Is everyone else hearing Sylvia badly? <o:p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Yes Sylvia sounded a bit muffled<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:I think you can't hear me <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Move on <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:I just want to clarify that while knowledge of the ICANN ecosystem is good, it shoudl not be mandatory<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:@Erika, I don't see your mic active. Please let me know if the op should dial out to you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:We need to have as broad a participation as possible<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Try again please <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:@Erika, audio is now working<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:can hear you Erika<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:I said we are fine<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jonathan Robinson:Thank you Erica<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Agree with Alan <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:23<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Hold on, but thn we need something on the charter about how / who appoints / nominates members that are not from the chartetring organizations?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:@Sylvia - only Chartering organizations can appoint members, but anyone can join as a participant<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> David Tait:I'm taking them<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Sylvia has a valid point here<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Yes, but what Asha said was to open members to others<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Open minded yes, but we don't need folks that understand the instrumental part of dispursement but the framing of programs yet
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Ok, I think we had already said that on the charter.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:yes that was my point - I think the text in the charter is broad enough already<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jonathan Robinson:N.B. Anyone may participate. There is nothing to stop experts particpating. As per Marika's point.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Terri Agnew:Welcome Brad Verd<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Agree Jonathan - we are not talking about participants, we are talking about members<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:good point Alan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Jonathan - it was important to take the time to get that sorted.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:We said 2 to 5. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:The group should remain not too big<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Okay <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:+1 to what Marika said, and also agree with Olga that it should not be too big.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:ok with that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:the charter currently foresees that the chartering organizations may appoint a chair to the CCWG (the Board is not a chartering organization)
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:ok<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Ok with appointing liaisons. It will be good to define such role at the CCWG level<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Since you can\t hear me, I can only type. So, let's have Asha moving ahead first
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:You can't hear me today <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Correct <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Agree with Jonathan. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:My hand is down - that was an old hand<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:agreed - outtside of scope<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Exactly, this is outside the scope <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Does the charter mentions that the CCWG needs to come up with the criteria?
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:This question came up because the audience at the public forum were not too clear on the 3 phased approach<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Ok<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Outside the scope, agree <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:ok<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:on a separate note, when we have a public forum in Hyderabad, India, we should take pains to clearly explain the 3 phased approach<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:I think we mentioned in the charter as one of the considerations for the CCWG to discuss<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:ok for me too<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Olga Cavalli:agree with Asha<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:I believe it is in the DT, but I will review<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:in the charter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:not DT<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Yes, I think on the charter we have a list of things to consider, criteria, evaliation etc were there<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:yes we do already! <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:I think we left it all quite loose because of the fact that the ICANN mission is also being worked out...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:YOu still can't hear me. move on <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:I agree that this part needs more fleshing out
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:No worries<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:CCWG will have to frame and define the scope and goals for the allocation of the fund.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Steve Crocker had raised this point too. the CCWG should define what the end goals are
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Specific objectives might relate to goals and scope, objectives might be a subset of things to achieve
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:+1 Erika<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jonathan Robinson:@Asha, Erica - if we move point to right of colon as answer / DT response, is that satisfactory?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:For me yes, Jonathan <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:right of which colon?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:in the notes section?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Comment 29 - The CCWG will be responsible for choosing the specific objectives and shaping those further. [ACTION: Staff to ensure this is mapped into Charter]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:high level goals<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:I agree with Alan, objectives is too narrow <o:p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Ok<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:I think this is a misunderstanding <o:p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:It's too confusing <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:#30<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:This should be up to the CCWG to decide ... depends on the real allocation structure that will be setup in the future
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:No restriction, but we do assume the disbursement will be over a relatively long period.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Agree with Alan <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:I think the DT should state that there will be no restrictions of this kind<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:I would separate the two items and not have them in a single sentence
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:why not split it into two separate sentences<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:exactly Marika! <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:I think it was about one time revenue source, not how many times an applicant has applied<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:agree with Alan's point - don't use the words "one time funding"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Ok, if it refers to one time revenue source then it will be ok. One time funding is a different expression, as Alan said<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:yes use "revenue source"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Let's be silent <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:The mandate is at the beginning of the charter, about round 1.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:so could we answer in the public comment tool but not put into the charter?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:agree Jonathan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Ok<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:That will be great Marika<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:That will certainly make it clear for people that comments were addressed<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Alan, from my notes - yes it was the gentleman from tucows who brought this up. His name is Elliott?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Who was the person that made the comment so repetitively?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:Eliott Noss<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Marika Konings:comment #36 also talks about one-off process<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:round 1, we should clarify that is round 1 (in full)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:agree with Alan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:The CCWG, in its wisdom, may decide to use all of the money in one fell swoop!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:yes Alan - the CCWG might give it all to a foundation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:I would fight it tooth and nail unless *I* am the recipient<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Really Alan :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:ok, I will share with a few selected friends<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Agree <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:agree 500%!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Yes please, try to finish the comment tool<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Outside the scope <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:this is related to the previous point #30<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:a bit connected<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Alan! <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:I agree with the principle that the CCWG should have a finite life- again this question came out of ignorance of the 3 phased process<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Can you repeaat Jonathan <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Jonathan, I like your draft answer<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jonathan Robinson:Thanks Asha. @Erica. Please see RHS - draft answer to comment 32<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Wil check <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Comment 32 - DT does expect the CCWG to have a finite life and the CCWG will not be involved in any distribution decisions.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Erika, I pasted it above for you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Thanks Asha. I have problem with the right column. Either it's so small that I can't read or I can only see half of the column
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Alan, good point but I would only say that the CCWG should consider and should come up with alternative proposals that should be investigated
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Exactly Asha <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Jonathan Robinson:@Asha. Assume income accrues to the fund. Correct?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Alan, I think we need to discuss this as soon as we have the processses in place.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:Just a note to augment the charter after we finish the PC review.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Agree with Alan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Asha, let's discuss this with the Board <o:p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Anyone still there???<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:I am here Erika<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Hi Sylvia! <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Maybe to have a diagram that explains? That way people migh actually get it, as they might not read the whole charter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:It's a bit deeper this point. It says that criterias for the expected results should be setup. Agree with what Alan is saying.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Sylvia, we did have a diagram at helsinki.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:On 34 the DT can add to the list of things to consider for the CCWG what are the minimum outcomes for accountability<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:The PPT was a lot of text, not very clear. At least the one I saw before
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:but our thoughts were not that mature yet on this, but now they have formed up more. So for Hyderabad, we can have clearer material<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:sylvia, have a look at diagrams that marika added - you can ask her later<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:On 34 the DT can add to the list of things to consider for the CCWG what are the minimum outcomes for accountabilit<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Is important to define a minimum<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:I agree with your proposed answer to #35<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Agree Jonatahn, on diversity <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:jonathan, could we go back to #34<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:I also commented on #34. On 34 the DT can add to the list of things to consider for the CCWG what are the minimum outcomes for accountability<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:There are different outcomes depending on different projects, so for the CCWG can define what a minimum will be to compare all the different ones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:I recommend not to do this, these kind of things need more time to think through and it depends how much risk one would be willing to take.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:That is not set from the start. That is based on each grant<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:I agree with Sylvia <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:yes good point - Sylvia. I was referring to success of the funding, not individual projects<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Jonathan, give us some time to mull over this a bit more<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:This is a WELL estblished process. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:established<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:We are nowhere near the first group to give away money with specific aims in mind.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> David Tait:Jonathan just to clarify I've used the term 'grants' to make clear this is distinct from the stewarding function of the funds.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:ok<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:open to another date<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:I should be available to chair if needed. But Joanthan's wisdom is always helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:It will be great to have the comments asap, so that we can make progress on the charter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:I have difficulty for 24th also<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Okay <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Alan Greenberg:Good meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Erika Mann:Thanks! <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Sylvia Cadena:Thank you all ::)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Excellent progress Jonathan, well done!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Asha Hemrajani:Thank you all<o:p></o:p></p>
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